Why retire in Nicaragua?

Based on the read count on a recent article about retirement in Nicaragua, it appears to be a hot topic for NL members (and lurkers). If you are retired here or considering retiring here, how about telling us about why you are considering Nicaragua, what your alternatives are, your concerns and such.

There may be answers for questions elsewhere on the site but, we also may be able to dig up specifics that address common concerns, interests and comparisons.

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Retire in Nica

Many have mentioned the obvious; cheaper, beautiful country, etc. The main reason to retire in Nicaragua should be peace and harmony. If you go to Nicaragua and fall in love with the people, sights, smells, and culture, then this is the place for you. It is not for everyone. There are certainly negatives; cultural gaps, crime (mostly in very remote areas, and big cities), lack of proper medical care, political corruption, judicial corruption (Eric Voltz), police corruption, individual corruption. If you can live with these uncertainties, or navigate around them without too much stress, then the positives outweigh the negatives. Maybe you are wanting a social activist retirement. Find your cause,find your funds, and find your people, and go to it. Happy retiring!

do yourself a favor, get a GOOD LAWYER.

If you look hard enough, you will find something you love in Nicaragua... it's an amazing country but not everyone is honest (this includes Americans living in Nicaragua) Get a good lawyer, I used: Paul Tiffer Abogado y Notario Público Tiffer & Asociados Reparto Bolonia Hospital Militar 1c. al lago, 1c. abajo Cel.: 8841652; Tel.: 2668622 Managua, Nicaragua E-mail: ptiffer@cablenet.com.ni

I bought on the pacific ocean, he did in depth research on my land to make sure everything was legal. (they speak English). He was excellent.

If you want information on where to look and what those of us on the site found, just ask.. lots of good folks on this blog.

Tips for newbie to Nicaragua

I am interested in visiting and possibly purchasing beachfront property in Nicaragua as Costa Rica and Belize are now too expensive for an American who wishes to expatriate.

I am fluent in Spanish but have no clue as how to avoid getting ripped off in the purchase.

Thanks

Two answers

The first is here. See http://www.nicaliving.com/node/454 which covers exactly this issue and more. Also, my book Living Like a Nica offers a lot more information.

My now famous expression related to this is "You can trade time for money".

why could he not find that out on NL?

There is something wrong with NL when someone has to ask a question about which so much has been spoken on NL.

It should be 40 times easier to locate key stuff like this.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

Gracias amigos!

I have a deep interest in Latin America- I lived in Mexico as an exchange student and have been to Costa Rica, Belize, Guatemala and Mexico. These places are overbuilt and too gringo for me. Thats why Nicaragua, Panama and a few places left off the beaten path come to mind.

future retirement

I do plan on retiring to Nicaragua. The reasons are many including the big fact that is just cheaper to live there. But cheap living can be found in many places (as Tony pointed out once, people move to Alabama for that reason...both I and Miskito Alan were raised there, and it would be my #2 place, but not because it is cheap).

My primary reason for wanting to live in Nicaragua are the people I have come to know there, have worked with and shared good times with. I truly feel I have family there.

As for the comment made about shaping the future of Nicaragua. I would hope that those who move to Nicaragua do not come with the intent of changing Nicaragua to fit some preconceived vision of what they want to make Nicaragua into. But we have to understand that as more of us move there, we will have an impact on the future, both in micro (neighborhood) and macro (local and national economy, etc) scales. I think we have to be intentional about being supportive of local efforts at development and self-direction and not impose our judgements and desires too strongly.

The benefits of retiring in

The benefits of retiring in Nicaragua are numerous, housing costs, food, ect, although the one most preferred is simply being out of the states. We, that is those that live here now or plan to in the future, can help shape Nicaragua into a dynamic, socially progressive, place to live. If we allow Nicaragua to become like Costa Rica, then we've lost. What I appreciate most about this website are the ideas and projects under discussion. Thank you for allowing me to participate in such a great place.

If moving away from the states was the prime

motivator then this discussion could be about Angola or Vanu Atu. Fact is, for a certain segment of the populace, Nicaragua is an attractor - for what it already is

If you want to 'shape' Nicaragua then may I politely ask you to consider somewhere else? I do not want Nicaragua to be shaped according to ANY gringos image. I love this country for what it is today and will rue the day that it moves on, as it inevitably will.

Perhaps it was just an unfortunate choice of word. Shape - no. Guide, educate, advise, invest, yes.

'Shape' makes me shudder.

as for dynamic progressive - please don't do that to me. I'm happy here, leave me alone!

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

With all due respect Tony, you are farting in the wind.

The acceleeration towards further more intensive gringoization of Nicaragua is already well on its way. The Walmarting of Nicaragua is an American economic force. The Remaxing of property sales has already driven the price of land and buildings out of the reach of most Nicaraguans, and is especially appealing to the American/Canadian investors, major and minor, who envision big profits just down the road. With the exception of the East Coast, Nicaragua's Pacific Coastal areas are soon destined to become Nicaragua's version of Jaco Beach (I remember Jaco when it had one small hotel, and several hippy bead shops). Dump Jaco along the coast of S. California and you would never know it's Nicaraguan. When I spent several months in Granada three years ago, I could have bought a reasonable home in the city for $35K. I just returned from Nicaragua after several months expecting a modest increase in property values. I was naive. $100K might get you a reasonable home. I am returning in September to explore the possibility of settling in Rivas, or even your town, but already the money hawks are machinating Anglo plans there for development and profit. I am not optimistic.

Like it or not, Nicaragua is being shaped.

And it's not a question of money alone, and the cost of housing. With the money and pensionado onslaught Nicaragua's culture, and political system itself, is under onslaught. No place is safe. Even Fyl's beloved Estelli. The tide is threatening to become a tsunami of Amereicanization. Because the Gringos want and will demand the Americanization with which they are comfortable and familiar.

Of course, they also want cheap labor. And Nicaragua has an abundance of peasantry to exploit at C900-2000 per month for six day weeks,10-12 hours per day.

Regretably, Nicaragua is being shaped, and will be shaped. On a personal note, born and raised in Canada, even though Canadian nationalists like to boast that somehow we are different from Americans, the sad reality is that we too have become Americanized. Unlike Nicaragua, we never had a government imposed upon us to further American interests. We simply elected successive governments which danced to our southern neightbors tune. Now, the Nicaraguan governemnt, duly and democratically elected, can shape it's own destiny to its' own vision. Whether it has the will, or vision, to formulate and pass legislation in the best interests of its' peoples, or whether it will allow the onslaught of foreign interests direct the 'shape' of Nicaragua's growth - that is the question.

On a personal note Tony, altho I have deliberately refrained from active participation of this web site since last autumn , I read the contributions on this site daily. I enjoy your observations, comments, insights.

The mouse sleeping next to the Elephant

Hi Edward, That comment about Canada and lack of Sovereign ambition, rolling over to be Americanised, now it's you that's farting in the wind. You must have been away for longer than I thought. long time no hear. How was your trip..apart from Real Estate woes. Did you find a Language school, decent place to stay. make any friends. Lets hear about it. By the way you and Tony should get together, do a gringo roadshow as standups, all the Nica ex-pat communities..you would make a killing ..call yourselves "The Crankies"

ROTFLMCO

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FAP

Not that I have the power to

Not that I have the power to shape anything, much less my own future, development in Nicaragua should continue, shaped by people who care about giving back, not simply obsessed with the idea of making money. If Nicaragua develops using the Costa Rican model, then what you love most about Nicaragua will disappear.

I guess its time for me to

I guess its time for me to stop lurking and jump in.

I have been retired in Mexico (Loreto, Baja California Sur) for the last four years and have enjoyed it very much, however the growth rate is getting out of hand. I moved here for the peace and quiet as much as any other reason and that is getting harder and hardet to find.

I was clued into Nicaragua by some neighbors and began checking into the possibilities of moving there. So far I like what I have seen, similar in many ways to Baja but more layed back, if thats possible.

The weather in the mountain regions sound very inviting, so I have tried to center my research in those areas. I will probably stay here in baja for another year or so, by then the 20,000 rooms they plan to build will make things like Cabo or one of the other tourist destinations, then I'm gone.

I don't know is Nicaragua will be my destination or not, but it's at the top of the list. Prior to moving to baja I spent many hours in baja chat rooms and the info picked up was invaluable. I don't have many specific questions yet, still building my general knowledge in order to ask more intelligent questions.

I look forward to learning and contributing.

Dan and Misty

You are going to buy some cheap real estate

As this poor excuse for a president keeps doing the thigs that he is doing you will be able to buy real estate here at prices even cheaper than they are now. He has no Ideas how this is going to hurt his people. As the middle class starts loosing value on thier homes they will start getting tight and as they get tight they start firing people and as that happens the only ones that are going to be ok are the ones with money. you will be able to retire here and live like a king as Danny pushes his peole back into the gound.

gaining respect

We just have our words here, few of us have met each other. Our posts are our reputation, our value, our credibility.

Posts that just accidentally, casually, throw-away, bye the way criticize people (usually DO) can be 1) considered negative 2) cause people to stop reading your real comments 3) degrades the value of yourself and your information.

By all means criticize DO or anyone else - on your own blog, under a relevant title. Better still, on www.therealnicaragua.com

But inserting sausage meat into a steak pie is not a way to win respect.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

Come on Tony

You need to stop worrying about who people criticize,after all that's what democracy is all about, other people WILL have a different opinion about DO, Jinotega and Nicaragua, and WE should respect that,instead of sending them and at the same time trashing someone else's website.

Stop taking things TOO personally my friend,it does not do you or Nicaragua any good.

FAP

Heh -

poor Tony - still beating the dead horse.

my friend was into necrophilia

bestiality and sadism. He gave it up. It was too much like beating a dead horse.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

i want to retire in nicaragua because

of my family and friends. i have already lived their for over a year andi go back their every year to see my family and friends,

in the time that i am not in condega i spend it on the computer reading what everyone has to say.

i have also givenup on the idea of bringing my family hear. just impossible to get them visas.

suppose the US gave a 3 year work permit to every

Nicaraguan that wanted one. Maybe 800,000 tops. Insignificant compared to the estimated 30 million illegals in the states right now.

After 3 years 1) the US would have their driving licence, address, credit card details, bank account numbers 2) most would be wanting to go home anyway.

Put a $8,000 price on the work permit to reflect what they would have paid the coyotes. Give the money back IF THEY LEAVE.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

Lack of Visas issue

Interesting point that people just can't bring Nicaraguans to the US. I actually hadn't thought about that group of people.

Pretty much, the lack of visas encourages illegal immigration. I mean, wouldn't it be easier to round up "visa jumpers" that people smuggled in by coyotes?