Re: sleep tight

Submitted by thunderdial on 9 July, 2007 - 11:44.

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sleep tight Submitted by Jinoturistica on 8 July, 2007 - 23:18. *new... one morning, someone will find your dead body with the above blog entry pinned on your cold chest.

Hate begets hate. And you have 'way more than your fair share.

Now, say something nice. Try it. Just once in your cold cold life, try it. You might like it.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

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Thanks for the threat, Tony. The day I lose sleep over what Tony or some Islamafascist will do to me, I'll just go ahead and take myself out. Tony recently sent me an email asking me why I hound him. Well, some of us have fun with Tony, and I am one - but at heart, I like Tony, and I like him a lot. Just wanted to get that out.

Now that I have, I'll continue after Fyl shut down the other thread, and tell you that I don't harbor hate. I have a very strong opinion on Islam (radical or otherwise), and like jimrichard, I don't have a lot of tolerance for their charter, mandates and actions. That's a fact, and to argue it on a Nicaraguan board, I think you'd have more luck converting me to Evangelism.

I am currently in Nicaragua. I spent yesterday at a good friend's house in Masachapa, and the topic of "US policy causes a lot of crap in the world" eventually came up. His argument was "The reason Ortega won is because we only give 300 million a year to Nicaragua." I asked him why is 300 million a problem? His answer was "Because you give Costa Rica more.." Well, that's not a good answer. I think the world has a sense of entitlement in regards to US monies should always come their way.

Want to see a problem in Nicaragua? How about no money? The US and Japan are the only meaningful financial contributors to Nicaragua - but that never makes the local press. What makes the local press? The Swiss gave 1 million. Germany gave 5 million.

What needs to happen in America? Limit all world contributions to humanitarians needs only, administered by the US on the ground. No more checks directly to the governments. And an African dictator wants to dole out the wheat? Sorry, doesn't happen that way any longer. If we can't trust you with food, how can we trust you with money? The historical answer is that we can't trust you with either. So we administer relief and aid on the ground, or you don't get anything. But Thunderdial, that's not realistic! For you and your country, maybe - but I assure you it's very realistic and effortlessly easy for us to simply close the tap. Several State Governors shut down their shops (even the Feds) to get their legislators in line and focused again - so if we can do it at home, it's not a problem show you 30 days of we mean business.

That sounds like a hard line, and it's really none of anyone's business, so I'll be brief - I contribute a significant amount of personal money to send several Nicaraguans to University. I do that because if there are people who are hungry in Nicaragua and they can't climb the mango or momon tree, then out of the gene pool. And if I've given you the impression that Nicaraguans resent us, I apologize - the majority of Nicaraguans do appreciate our limited presence and our bountiful financial contributions to their country - they just don't like the fat bastard system that leaks it out to their constituants. And if you read between the lines on this site, you'll see that the only people who harbor hate for the US on this site are the cheles who bear the cross of Linder Christ, and long for the days waiting in line for food under the watchful eye of the block captains.

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one tin soldier

There won't be any trumpets blowin' come the judgement day but on the bloody morning after...

contributions to Education-sensible assistance

I was just wondering, do you contribute and follow through so to speak, monitor progress? Should I ever get involved with something like that I know that I would have to. Also, for me, I would want to assist in the Life after School, especially, given the age group (University Grad). Another theme along these lines would be contribution to Technical, Trade School aspirations. Again..what about the Life after school.

Sorry, to answer more

Sorry, to answer more completely, one is an orthodontist, and is employed. One doctor will graduate in two year, and nobody is concenred that he'll be employed. One other, the equivilant of an MBA, is employed, but on sick leave. The IT (CompSci) student that graduates this year already has his own business which is doing quite well - In fact, I am going to post his contact info in NicaPlaza and on some other boards later on.

And to be more concise on my other response, my terms were very clear up front - fail, and you're out. Not just them, but my son as well - I tell them if they don't care enough about their education to stay interested, involved, and pass, then I am flushing money, and I am not going to do that a second time. But I don't micromanage/monitor the results.

Good on you

Thanks for your detailed answer.

Yes, it's only a pass thing.

Yes, it's only a pass thing. I don't require that they maintain a certain GPA.

It's great that you gave them the chance

Succeed or fail if they chose the curriculum, and it is what they desire to do for their life's work, it's a great opportunity every child should have that opportunity.

A tip o'the hat to you.

thats 300 million cordobas.

were you thinking Germany gave $5 million dollars and the USA was giving $300 million dollars? If Only.

Your buddy was more or less right, its about $27 million dollars a year from the US. In comparison, Nicaragua received $5 million from little tiny Luxembourg.

This is not about Costa Rican and Nicaraguan aid budgets, its about being kind and warm hearted and generous to a neighbor. The sad fact is that USA gives more aid to Israel than it does to every single country in South and Central America combined. And then spends even more than that building walls and fortifications along the Mexican border.

40 years ago, USA cut off all money supply to Cuba. It hasn't worked yet. Its the politics of the clenched fist.

Try an open palm and a smile. It grows on you after a while.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

Tony, there are other

Tony, there are other considerations for dispensing large sum capital besides warm hearted gestures to neighbors. There are other aspects of aid besides food/medical. Israel is a strategic ally in a region that needs to become stable. I won't argue the amount we give them - I think they should get less. There are other first world countries in the world - when will they belly up to the aid table and kick in their fair share? I can't argue deeds and transgressions going back 200 years, but I can tell you that the US is the most benevolent superpowers the plant has EVER KNOWN. And yes, we get a very bad rap considering the good we do in the world.

The reason the cuba sanctions haven't worked is because the economy/market is so small. It's easy for Canada and Europe to keep them alive. Now, cut off all US aid at the Rio Grand all the way down to south pole, and watch it go to hell in a handbasket in less than a year. Massive refugees into Brasil and Mexico. Canada, Japan, Europe can't make that nut.

Oh, and BTW, we need walls on the Mexican border. We need to stop illegal immigration, period, and come up with some meaningful legislation on immigration that both makes sense and can be enforced. We need to financially crucify employers of illegals, and put more ICE on the streets to round up the ones who manage to slip through - not by bothering Mexican/Americans who are legal, but through good investigative work.

why bother with

a border fence?

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter." "Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. "Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."

Now what "block leader" came up with that?

Phyllis Schlafly

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/2005/july05/psrjuly05.html

the CFR site;

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7912/creating_a_north_american_community....

Also found;

"Millions of Americans, shocked by the Senate “grand bargain” on immigration that gives the precious gift of legalization to millions of illegal aliens and felons, have taken to the phones to demand no amnesty. But, claims Corsi, there’s far more to the current Senate bill – a story documented in shocking detail in “The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada,” published by WND Books.

“Prior to this ‘grand bargain’ cooked up in a backroom by our so-called representatives, many people had never heard of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, yet several amendments in the Senate bill are designed specifically to further the SPP’s agenda,” explains Corsi.

In “The Late Great USA,” Corsi shows how the SPP, an agreement signed in 2005 by Bush, Paul Martin of Canada and Vicente Fox of Mexico, is nothing less than a full-frontal assault on American sovereignty.

This aim to create a North American Union between the United States, Mexico and Canada is the real reason behind “comprehensive immigration reform.”

Says Corsi, “Bush’s goal to create a North American Union – with no borders, a shared currency, and utterly no voice for average Americans in their own futures – is the real reason he won’t enforce immigration laws.”

Utilizing thousands of documents released as a result of the Freedom of Information Act, “The Late Great USA” shows how unelected bureaucrats in faceless agencies such as the Department of Commerce have been given the power to foist the NAU on the American public incrementally."

from;

http://dissidentnews.wordpress.com/2007/07/01/documented-plans-for-merge...

Is that coffee I smell?, Must be time to wake up.

-Doug

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate

Um, no.

Um, no.

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Global Policy

just 2 of the sources that refute your claim to be so generous. I especially liked this table from the second link which clearly shows the generosity of the US in military aid.

My point was that if you help your neighbors develop instead of smashing their economies, there would be less illegal immigration and little need for a wall.

Build a wall, they'll come over it under it around it or thru it.
Futile. The Berlin wall, the Maginot line, the great wall of China, Hadrians wall. Doesn't anyone read history any more?

You are in your bubble. just like GWB. An unpoppable bubble. Facts, history, ideas, they all just bounce off.

Enough. Adios.

T

To be fair, the US lead the

To be fair, the US lead the OSA column as well. Yes Tony, we read history, but we also create the future. "The Great Wall Of The US" would also have technological aspects and advanced weapons to ensure its defense and integrity, along with the human resources required to round up, the one who slip through. Hey Tony, what if there was a real penalty to crossing illegally, and it was enforced?

I don't live in a bubble, and I don't remember smashing Mexico's economy - I believe they do a good enough job of that on their own.

Unburstable bubble

Tony; You'r beating a dead horse. Though the world as a whole agrees with you and I, along with the majority of the people of the US. According to the news this morning the congress is finally opening their eyes and Bushs' days are numbered as far as being the bully with the "Big Stick".

None are so blind as those who will not see.

Hello, jimrichard, familiar conversation?

This is another Teddy Roosevelt quote:

"There is not a man of us who does not at times need a helping hand to be stretched out to him, and then shame upon him who will not stretch out the helping hand to his brother." Pasadena, CA, May 8, 1903

i like that quote...

"There is not a man of us who does not at times need a helping hand to be stretched out to him, and then shame upon him who will not stretch out the helping hand to his brother." Pasadena, CA, May 8, 1903. very nice. roosevelt's other quote starts, "WALK SOFTLY." why didn't the usa help out ho chi minh when he came to the usa asking for help? it is noble of the usa to help. instead, didn't he go to china? so 50,000 americans died for a war that jfk got us into? (i will confess, i am making that assertion from memory. i do not know the viet nam war that well.)

i don't get where you are coming from that i don't recognize the help i have recieved and the help that i have given. but, neither i nor the usa can help the wahhabi/al quaeda mindset of convert or conquer. for my inability to communicate that point, i apologize.

this is a world goverened by the violent use of force. i suspect you have not heard of the parties al quaeda is throwing in iraq to convince moderates to join their way of thinking?

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Oh go ahead - nobody is

Oh go ahead - nobody is looking, and I have thick skin.

darn it, i was going to talk about roosevelt

walk softly and .....

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You know Jim, I don't think you really believe half of the nonsense you post, I suspect you just get a kick out of 'poking the bear'. If you do you're the biggest Imperialist I've ever had the displeasure of comming across. I get my definition of Imperialist from:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6269

If you have a different description I'm willing to listen.(not agree, but listen it's got to be good for a laugh) The quote was, "'talk' softly but carry a big stick you will go far."--

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/quotes.htm

There is a very old saying by a very wise man (even if you're not religious you must admit that anyone who is able to have followers of his doctrine 2000 years after his death is pretty smart) "Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy." or "...when you have done it unto one of these the least of my bretheren you have done it unto me." You told me once to go serve the lord, please practice what you preach.

Agreed war machines do make 'Corporate America' rich and feared. Feeding people and lifting them out of poverty can make 'America' rich and loved and then it would be unnecessary to walk around with a big stick like a caveman.

Viva Nicaragua!!

more nice quotes....

"There is a very old saying by a very wise man (even if you're not religious you must admit that anyone who is able to have followers of his doctrine 2000 years after his death is pretty smart) "Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy." or "...when you have done it unto one of these the least of my bretheren you have done it unto me." You told me once to go serve the lord, please practice what you preach."

my religion, if i never miss the mark, is a pact to turn the other cheek til the terrorists kill all who believe in my religion. my constitution that i swore allegiance to when i recieved my commission is not a suicide pact. i have sworn to defend this country against all enemies. i believe i can love my dishonorable enemy (he kills innocent women and children, does not wear a uniform, etc.) and kill him when necessary.

I respect what you're saying .

I also respect your position, that is what "talk softly and carry a big stick" refers to make sure you can protect your self but do no harm, don't start trouble. However, the people who are now terrorist were taught this way of life and have no real axe to grind with us they just do what they have been taught. They are taught from an early age that if they are martyred in the name of Allah fighting infidels who are invading their land they will go to Heaven and be given 72 virgins. It used to be that their families would receive $10,000 also(I'm not sure if this reward thing still exists)that is alot of money for some of the despeately poor in those countries and there are few opportunities. This is what started the recruitment and now the "I want to be just like Daddy or Uncle Joe" syndrome has invaded the thought processes. Their originators,teachers (if you will) hate America for the theft of the land to give to Israel as well as the huge monitary support in the form of war materials and machines. I am not opposed to Israel, or their having their home land, but I think that if the Palestinians were treated more fairly there would be much less conflict in the area. I also believe that eventually if they want peace they will have to sit down, talk and make compromises to come to an agreement on how to live with each other peacefully. Palestine needs a homeland with borders that cannot be compromised by Israel and until they have it there will be conflict. Killing each other is not the answer. Right now the Palestinians are living in a prison state very few of them are terrorist and that is not right.

Sorry I'm so long winded.

i will agree that they are brainwashed....

in madrassas to hate. but they are responsible for their actions. we are not responsible for reprograming them. their countries are responsible.

moreover, it is not just poverty related. remember the most privileged of our society, doctors in britian organized terror. that same investigation revealed 45 doctors in the usa that want to commit terror.

those countries are responsible for policing their citizens. the bushes are too close to the house of saud, a country that is responsible for creating a lot of the world's terror. if we had gone in more forcefully in afghanistan and not at all in iraq, usa might have had a more credible response. moreover iraq would have been a counterbalance to iran. we are in iraq now and so is alquaeda, so no more somalias.

we killed the nazis. it is a matter of will. if we get out of iraq, there will be more killing fields.

Definition of "imperialist"

Could you copy and paste the definition of "imperialist" in a reply for me? That web site is one of many that Big Brother has blocked in this "harmonious society." (Why I just bubble over with "harmony" every time a web site I want is blocked! I hope Norman Bethune is turning over in his grave!)

O quantum est in rebus inane!

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Complete article sent to you as PM, quite interesting. Lots of other interesting articles written by well informed and qualified people, anyone who cannot access them let me know I'll send you a copy of the headings and copy and email the articles to you upon request. New articles are entered quite often.

i am thinking this

sounds like from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs?

if so, doesn't israel need a little extra help? rough neighborhood?

Little extra help

"if so, doesn't israel need a little extra help? rough neighborhood?"

I don't really know, how many Israeli children live in the streets and go to bed hungry percentage-wise compared to third world countries?

rough neighborhood? Let's talk about Darfur.

a man smarter than i said,

"Without disease, we cannot know wellness. Without sadness, we cannot know joy. Without war, we cannot know peace." having lived in asia for over a year, sounds like the yen and the yang. what do you think fyl? i don't know what taoists believe, but could this be it?

i like tony...

he is not my enemy. one might say, he is my friend.

Very well said!!!

Reeeeecardo :-), you ok in my book

FAP