Who is on the INTUR board?

Submitted by fyl on 30 June, 2007 - 07:54.

I was reading the law that created INTUR and it says that five people from the private sector serve on their board. But, it doesn't say how those people are selected. Anyone know who they currently are, who they have been and/or how they are selected?

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INTUR II

Permanent Members of the Comitee:

*The Secretary of the Treasury or his/her delegate

*General Director of Revenue "" "" "" ""

*General Director of Customs "" "" "" ""

*Rep. of Natl. Chamber of Tourism "" "" ""

*Rep. of Nica. Chamber of Medium

and Small Turism Enterprises. "" "" ""

*President of the Commission of Tourism

at the Natl. Assembly "" ""

*Executive Prsident of the Institute

of Municipal Development " "" ""

Note: The comitee will be presided by the Secretary of Coordination

and Strategy of the Presidency of the Republic or his/her delegate.

Quick, dirty and rough translation.

Al

Oh well

I will soon know the answer and will probably delete most of the BS here and post the answer. Alra's post was the closest to being useful as he pointed to the law. Unfortunately, that is where I started--I saw the board makeup when I had read the law and just wondered who was selected from the private sector.

In any case, this is a prefect example of a NL problem I have recently talked about with three NL members. There are lots of people that read close to everything here using the tracker to see what is new. But, there are more people who come here "looking for an answer" and just can't find it because it is buried in BS.

Once we get to Drupal 5, there will be more tools to manage this. Some has to do with finer grain permissions, others with the ability to move posts and comments to "where the belong". It won't be an overnight fix but it will make it possible to add a bit more organization.

INTUR

is made up of aprox. 8 Govt. members or their delegates

Is a very long link, here's a partial link= www.dgi.gob.ni/documents/reforma/

Search under Decree No. 89-99 of Law 306. is a .PDF document

"Law of Incentives for the Turist Industry of Nicaragua"

Al

INTUR

used to be available in Spanish or English, but it's now Spanish only. Great marketing.

Spanish?

If the answer to my question is in Spanish, great. Where is it?

?

I'm not sure I understand your question. It wasn't necessarily a situation of Q&A. Last year there were whole sections of the site with descriptions of the different departments, celebrations, etc., written in both languages. You could choose , before entering the site, either the English or Spanish version; same info (although a bit more detailed in Spanish).

Members

Who are the members of the INTUR board? Of particular interest are the five members from the private sector.

Oh,

THAT question! Heh, the site would actually need to be functional for you to find any kind of info. Also, since this is such a "transparent" government, willing to disclose any and everything it does, good luck with THAT!

NL isn't the government

Phil, just get Gixia to call INTUR on the phone.

Cathy thinks there is a conspiracy of silence going on and you haven't actually said here on NL that you ever called INTUR and asked them.

INTUR failing to answer a question is one thing, failing to ask the question in the first place is quite another. Even Daniel cannot be blamed for failing to answer the unasked!

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

You

know, you're such a ding dong. I was referring to the INTUR site, NOT NL! Go find someone else to bother - I'm sure it's not difficult to do.

go read the blog again. from the top.

  1. Phil had a question related to INTUR
  2. You dragged in the web site as a side issue
  3. Phil dragged you back to the actual question
  4. You accused the government of being secretive

Thats a wild and wooly way of weaving your anti Sandinista POV into a genuine innocent quest for information.

Since you know so much about Nicaragua, Cathy, who IS on the INTUR board? I have $50 says you don't know.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

Did I

even make the slightest hint that I knew the answer to the question? I brought in the website as an example of just how difficult it IS to find this type of information. You INFERRED that I was accusing the government of secrecy, because I surely never said that. YOU call INTUR. I, personally, think they need to do away with it, and create a more useful agency.

remember that 'freedom of information' blog?

This sounds like a classic case for asking an innocent question of the Nicaraguan government.

I have checked and re-checked the web and the only reference I can find to ANY member of the INTUR board is the presidential appointment of the big boss Arcia.

Even that was from the press. The INTUR site is silent about their contact information, location, hours of operation, mission, membership, services offered, branch offices, or budget.

Someone needs to tell them the concepts and advantages of open and transparent government.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

INTUR Information

Perhaps we should ask the "big boss" if and how we can be of help to improve upon the image and attractions of tourism in Nicaragua. Right now it is "all hands on deck" for the country's people.

right attitude, right person to ask, wrong question

Asking Nicaraguans how to help set up a tourist industry is ungood. If they knew, someone would have done it long since.

Finding ways to promote or improve tourism isn't really the question either.

The trick is to get the promotion, process, publications, power, international presence, and official stamp of approval from the government, and that means INTUR.

I am all for a NL delegation going to Managua and talking with DO and whoever is the head of INTUR. Anyone else interested?

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

POAOT

To hell with all of that. Why not get the gov to take away all the money they piss away with all those agencies and spend it on getting the lights and water working 24/7.

Pura Nica, Bobby

how can we put a man on the moon...

... but cant cure the common cold?

Different goals, objectives, plans, staff, technology, possibilities, rewards and budget size.

You could take the entire INTUR budget and it would pay for the fuel injector pump on one generator and a tank full of Diesel. Big Deal.

INTUR doesn't run hotels or restaurants nor do they run full fledged tourist offices. You cannot buy a canopy tour, make a hotel reservation, or buy an airline ticket at an INTUR office. Those activities would be socialist and we cant have that, can we :-)

They get the word out about Nicaragua and, having attracted people here, ensure there are sufficiently knowledgable Nicaraguans to handle them. INTUR here runs training classes almost daily, teaching people the ins and out of the various natural resources and touristy stuff. I'm sure most of the attendees are just on a boon doggle just as they would be in the USA.

Give them a break. How do you teach someone to be a waiter when the student doesn't know how to read and write, wouldn't know a cheddar from a brie, doesn't know that Chardonnay is usually white and Merlot is usually Red? Even in the USA, I have been served spicy unpeeled shrimp (So all the spices end up in the discard pile. Brilliant!)

Given that brief - training and publicity - I would hope their web site looked like a brochure of Nicaragua - as it surely does.

I would also expect their web site to be available in the predominant visitors languages, English and German - as surely it is not.

Local office 'development opporunities': a) notice outside stating hours of operation b) map of local town showing hotels on outside wall c) give-away copy of local calendar of events d) give away sketch map of town e) '5% discount' cards to sponsoring hotels and restaurants f) guest book / questionaire / request for comments

Web site 'development opportunities': 1) languages 2) maps 3) weather 4) how to get your hotel listed on their site 5) office locations and hours 6) mission statement 7) tourism statistics 8) management structure with names and responsibilities 9) detailed contact information 10) blog space / guest book 11) suggestion box 12) newsletter sign-up 13) webcam in the Managua office 14) upcoming class schedule

and all 14 points would cost less than the diesel to light Granada for a day.

Tony X Robins, Jinotega

I agree here

INTUR has had something like six directors in seven years. What it seems they are supposed to do encourage tourism investment. Every attempt we have made to get some useful information related to this has been a dead end.

Their web site (when it worked) looked more like a travel agency site. If the government just published the statistics (that we have been told exists somewhere) and left the promotion up to those businesses who benefit, I think we would all be a lot better off.