Would a 25ft dish work for DirecPC??? For XM?

Submitted by Chriswlan on 5 March, 2005 - 01:23.

Hello!

Well, Fyl has kept us posted for months on the Internet feed options.

Anybody knows if a very oversize dish has ever been tried in Nica? It would have to be rated for the K-Band, of course, not just an old C-Band dish.

I've spent lots of time online researching this, and for what I can find out for the satellite footprints, the signal decreases rather steeply south of Mexico. On the other hand an educated guess tells me that even way outside of the main lobe of the sat antenna the signal strength can't be that very very much weaker: say 20-30dB down? So it might just be possible; of course it is a bit of a financial gamble to set up such a huge dish without certainty!

But then, DirecPC et al are the cheapest of the Satellite options.

On the other hand, there is a much better chance of success with XMradio (NOT Sirius!) as the signal is much much stronger to begin with. If I ever land in Nica I'll certainly try XM at the very least.

Any rate: I'd be interested in getting some feedback on this.

Cheers

Christian

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I'll start with the fact that

Sorry, I read DirecPC as DirecTV. Ignore me. I'll still leave this here for others thinking about trying DirecTV in Nicaragua.

I'll start with the fact that I worked for DirecTV as a customer service rep for 3 months, on the Spanish line, which meant I dealt with all kinds of people trying this. After I quit working there, I started hacking the heck out of my free equipment, and generally involving myself in the Satellite TV community.

You're not going to get a signal from US DirecTV satellites below about halfway down in mexico with the standard dish. DirecTV signals are sent in a spiral polarization, as opposed to a simple horizontal or vertical polarization, largely meaning efforts to get yourself a larger dish will be met with varying degrees of success. A typical DirecTV system is also aligned with 3 seperate satelites, at 101, 110, and 119. Most programming comes off the 101, but HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc come off the 119. Local channels are sent in a spot beam to where they need to be. Local channels are largely the ones you want, as in the major networks, not cable stations. You can't subscribe to LA/NY feeds (which aren't spot beams) unless you're already subscribed as of 3 (I think) years ago. Thus meaning that you wouldn't get CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, UPN, etc.

All that said, DirecTV does offer service to Central America. http://www.directv.com.ni/

I asked them if I could still use my Tivo in Nicaragua and how much it would cost. They quoted me 90 dollars a month, have to buy new receivers (it uses different satellites, so the old IRDs won't work) for 300 dollars each, no Tivo whatsoever, and by the way, it's a lame channel line up. Yes, the prices were in dollars...I emailed back to make sure I didn't just misunderstand.

Anyway, that said, get cable. :-) As far as XM, I have no clue. I know XM bought an old DirecTV satellite or 4, so you're probably stuck with the same problems. :-)

Technology

Im not sure where your located but Nicaragua, if your in any of the metro-areas, DSL might just be coming to your town. Direct PC is ok but we have had trouble when the weather get bad. Its resold at a premium because its third partied through existing vendors in the United States. The dream has been to order the service in the states and bring a dish down, using a US billed account. I understand the Nicaraguan Goverment frowns on this however. Not really sure how much they care though.

Pete

Yes and maybe

Direcway will work at least in parts of Nicaragua with a 1.8 meter dish. If you look at the footprints you are absolutely right. Central America is relatively neglected because there is not much land nor people that can afford a computer, much less 24/7 connectivity. (BTW, that's Ku band, not K band. A very different thing.)

Adding antenna gain (or transmit power) for transmitting can help if you are outside the footprint but there is a limit to how much you can do on the receive end. A bigger antenna means you are picking up more noise as well as more signal from the sat.

Direcway

Direcway uses SATMEX 5 for delivery to Central America, I have communicated with many users as far south as Costa Rica. Hughes recommends a larger dish, and yes, it will be affected by periods of heavy rainfall. I've been using it for about a year and its relatively dependable all the time, does not require any additional software.

Satellite Internet Service

I found a good non-commercial web site with good information on satellite based internet service:

http://www.satsig.net/

The indicate there is one provide now that covers most of Nicaragua - Vsat - and more coming. Obviously DSL or cable internet service is less expensive & more reliable, where available. But satellite internet is alternative for those in more remote areas.

I hope I don't come across as a 'spoiled' NorteAmericano, but broadband internet service is a must have for me where ever I relocate to in Nicaragua. I use broadband Internet for Voip (inexpensive Internet-based telephone service) and many other things, even downloading of movies & television programing over Peer2Peer networks (Yes, slightly illegal, but I don't shed too many tears for the Hollywood studio mega-conglomerations).

One Thing to Remember.

In Nicaragua when your have your own satellite transmission; you must notify, register, license, and pay the government for those transmissions.

I have V-Sat in Puerto Cabezas and I pay a total of U$69/month (American) for the service. "Padredemumi" says the service is slow; but, I will tell you the service is much faster than whaen I had no internet. ____________________________________________________________________

ARCOS

Im surprised there isnt really fast service in Puerto Cabezas. You have one of two Nicaragua landings of the ARCOS (Americas Region Caribbean Optical-ring System), one of the main backbones of the carribean. http://www.nwncable.com/page.asp?c=3&s=10&l=1

investigating

I saw the same thing Pete and need to take a look into it next time in Port with Miskito Alan's internet guy. I am guessing it is a question of the investment to scale DOWN the bandwidth - I think it's an OC-48 pipe and I don't think Port could even use a DS level of pipe. Maybe, who knows. Guess I'll HAVE to go back to Port...