euthanasia - dog

I am a bit uncomfortable with this question but can anyone recommend a humane way to euthanize a suffering animal (sleeping pills, etc)? There is an injured and suffering dog which I have been walking by each day; it breaks my heart - paralyzed and almost starved to death.

Locals are unshy about poisoning nuisance animals but reluctant to do it/anything out of compassion.

What would you do?

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how to euthanize

This post is very old now, and I'm sure it's been resolved, but I'll comment here in case another person has the issue.

I am what you could consider an animal welfare professional, having worked as a humane society director (ops) in the US for several years.

If you are concerned about euthanizing the animal 'humanely', you need to involve a veterinarian or even a human doctor with access to properly dosed drugs. The most widely used barbiturate to euthanize is pentobarbital, administered at about 390mg/10lb of body weight (i.v.), or 1200mg/10lb if done orally. Orally is not recommended for an adult dog, but if the animal is already very weak, it will probably work... but may be difficult if the dog is trying to bite (and even an otherwise friendly dog can bite when in pain). Intra peritoneal (in the abdominal cavity using a syringe and needle) is also an option.

But if no vet or doctor is to be found that can help, you don't have a 'humane' option... you're not likely to find any drug or poison that you can administer and ensure a quick and painless death.

I would try to overcome a local's reluctance, as others advised, with money. 'Blunt force trauma' such as gunshot to the head or direct powerful blow to the skull is actually considered an acceptable way of euthanasia when necessary... so I'd ask that one of these methods be used. Carbon monoxide (auto exhaust) is still used in places to euthanize, but I would use that only to knock the animal out, and then proceed with blunt force trauma.

If no one was willing to do this either, having been in the field I was in, I probably couldn't bring myself to do the deed myself. So I'd probably end up feeding the dog and bringing him over to my place... and i'd go through the trouble of transporting the dog to a vet to have it euthanized.

dog

I think that drugging animals is an act of cruelty.Do you want to make them addicts and sent them to a drug rehab treatment

dog gone?

I hope the dog question is done with. Had a similiar experience in mexico; twice!

IN THE FUTURE DO NOT, DO NOT US YOUR BARE HANDS TO HELP AN ANIMAL YOU ARE NOT PERSONALLY FAMILIAR WITH! FOR ME, I ALWAYS HAVE A HEAVY SET OF CLOVES IN THE CAR FOR JUST SUCH A SITUATION. IF YOU HAVE CUTS; FORGET IT. BACTERIA AND THE LIKE,EVEN RABIES COULD END UP IN YOUR FUTURE. A FRIEND HAD TO UNDER GO THE WHOLE RABIES SHOT SERIES- IN THAILAND- AS A RESULT OF SUCH ACTIONS. BAD NEWS.

AFTER COMING ACROSS A DOG(LARGE) THAT SOMEONE HAD HIT IN THE DESERT IN MEXICO. A VERY STRESSFUL SCENARIO. I ENDED UP GETTING BEHIND THE DOG,AND PLACED A LARGE BEACH TOWEL OVER ITS HEAD............THEN PLACED A KNIFE INTO THE BRAIN. VERY UNPLEASANT. BUT QUITE FAST. VERY SAD.

Dogs

Can anyone tell me if stray roaming dogs are a common problem in Nicaragua? Are there any areas to visit that do not have this problem? We love animals, and usually end up bringing one home from every country we visit. Needless to say, we're at maximum capacity!

Look forward to your feedback! Marny

stray Nicaraguan dogs

Hi Marny,

I have started an animal clinic in Granada, Nicaragua, that focuses on sterilization and treatment of stray dogs and cats. I have sent (and personally delivered) several strays to adoptive homes in the U.S. It's an expensive, time consuming effort...but worth every minute and cordoba when I receive info about the beautiful lives that they now live.

We operate (no pun intended!) only when vounteer vets come here to help us. Please put out the word for this need!

Would love to add you to my mailing list to keep you updated about our clinic, Casa Lupita.

All the best Donna Tabor Project Director Building New Hope www.buildingnewhope.org

I just want to say

that the clinic that Donna and her group have started is great, but they are in desperate need of more vets. I took my kitten there back in August for an evaluation (she's handicapped), and the vet (Dr. Tom, I think?) was most helpful. However, Donna's latest (but not necessarily newest) project in Granada is CafeChavalos. This is a restaurant where Lilly (a professional chef) and Donna have worked with several street kids (chavalos), training them in food preparation, serving, waiting on customers, etc. In other words, they're giving these kids a second chance. So, the next time you're in Granada, go eat there!!

After you see the plight of some of the children,

the dogs are not so noticable...

I understand....

We are in the process of adopting from Nicaragua, and I voluntarily develop programs for orphanges all over Latin America. You're right, the plight of the children is heartbreaking, and it deserves the necessary attention....There is a fantastic group of people in our city that is doing a fundraiser for 2 orphanages and a church in Nicaragua. We certainly all do our best to contribute our strengths to try to make whatever difference we can....

Donating in nic...

I am currently trying to donate resources to Nicaraguan children. I have been asked to send baseball equipment to a school near Leon through Quetzaltrekkers and have this equipment. Unfortunately, it costs about $900 to send it there...

IS ANYONE from the No. California area willing to be a "mule" and carry a bundle of baseball equipment to Managua? I wont be going down until December 07. Or, does anyone have any suggestions about moving resources, money, etc. from the US to "the Nic"?

Thanks in advance, Grasshopper

Islands in Granada

If you see a dog on one of the Islands in Granada, its not a stray :)

Hey, Josh -

are you in Managua, Granada or Rivas?

Are there

EVER stray roaming dogs! It's a bad situation in Nicaragua, definitely heart-breaking. I'm not sure as to where you would go that didn't have them.

Killing a dog

find a local vet.. for a street dog I think the best way would be a big club behind the head. You cannot give a injection without the risk of getting badly bitten. We see this all the time here. Probably dying from tick fever which will cause the symtoms you are seeing. Poison is a cruel way to kill by the way...there are no quick poisons that can be ingested.

knowledge is power

The ASPCA Poison Control

The ASPCA Poison Control website lists: Common examples of human medications that can be potentially lethal to pets, even in small doses, include: - Pain killers - Cold medicines - Anti-cancer drugs - Antidepressants - Diet Pills

Yes,

but the problem is that the death is often long and drawn-out, not to mention excrutiatingly painful. I don't think I'd go any of those ways, myself.

well, in the States . . .

vets use barbiturates to do the job don't they?

Here's a list I found on wikipedia

Some of the barbiturates available are:

* amobarbital (Sodium Amytal®; hypnotic) * aprobarbital (Alurate®; hypnotic) * barbital (Veronal®; hypnotic) * butabarbital (Butisol®; hypnotic) * butalbital (Fiorinal®; sedative) * hexobarbital (Sombulex®; hypnotic/anesthetic) * methohexital (Brevital®; anesthetic) * methylphenobarbital (Mebaral®; antianxiety, anticonvulsant) * pentobarbital (Nembutal®; hypnotic) * phenobarbital (Luminal®; hypnotic, sedative, anticonvulsant) * secobarbital (Seconal®; hypnotic) * sodium thiopental (Sodium Pentothal®; anesthetic) * talbutal (Lotusate®; hypnotic) * thiobarbital (anesthetic)

I guess the trick would be to see if the farmacia has these or you can find a doctor to prescribe it for you if possible.

It's very difficult to be a very empathetic person regarding the poor animals in Nicaragua. I went down on a trip to Nicaragua once with someone who wanted to help a sick horse . . . it was tough on her, really was. Basically giving them an overdose to where their heart stops beating is the most humane way to put them down. Sure you can find someone who will get rid of it, but how they do it . . . mmmm don't think so.

Doors of hope fly open when doors of promise shut. -Thomas D'Arcy McGee

Tylenol is toxic to dogs but

Tylenol is toxic to dogs but I don't know the dosage it would take to do the job.

Tylenol

is toxic to people too. If you eat a bottle of them it shuts down your liver and your dead in about 6 hours. Very very painful way to die.

Pura Nica, Bobby

PS Tell one of the locals to "take care" of the dog. Tell him if you don't see the dog anymore you'll pay him. I did this with two screaming roosters my neighbor HAD. I told the guy if I didn't hear the roosters anymore I'd pay him. He came back a few days later with the proof of the silenced roosters in a shopping bag. Problem solved and he got dinner!

Marlies,

I can give youthe advice of my old Farmer Grandmother,

Find a young man and give him a hammer and tell him...

take this son and finish 'em off, and done!

I am serious, just dont look...

Lyin' Farmer John Wayne

have a look here . . .

I'm not sure what you might have access to . . .

http://www.medaille.edu/vmacer/120_lec_23euthanasia.htm

Dog-

Marlies, I think I'd start by crying, that's a bad scene.

Is there a vet or animal hospital you could stop by and ask? Sorry but I don't know what exists on Corn Island as far as that type of business goes. I know there are alot of animal lovers on NL so hopefully you'll get a good answer soon.

Good Luck

There's hardly a people

There's hardly a people hospital here! I am an animal lover; have a Corn Island rescue dog already and my cat who came by boat with us from Key West.

I was just wondering if there was some pharmaceutical concoction (other than rat poison, which has already been suggested).

Every day I hope and pray that the dog has died naturally.

I thought I'd query the group.

Can you buy morphine OTC..

in Nicaragua? Then he would just go to sleep... (I think?)

Marlies

I am an animal lover as you are. My cat actually waited for me to come home from my last trip to Corn Island to die. She waited till I got home and we visited and she died that night.

However.....rat poison only works on rats because they can not throw up. Dogs and cats can so it will not work. Honestly, shoot it. Quick and painless. I know how this sounds but it is the only practical solution. I personally would rather have a loving person put a bullet in my head than let me starve.

Shoot it

that's really the best way, any poisons will either not kill it, kill it badly or propagate down the food chain and kill the things that eat the dead dog.

A .22 rimfire in the back of the head is all you need, as Pompano Tom says it is instantaneous + painless (the bullet travels faster than the pain signal).

My Guess

From Marlies description I imagine the dog is on the street. Shooting a dog in public (especially for a Gringa) would draw unwanted attention. Someone would claim you shot their prize winning show dog & demand a payment for their loss. I think she is looking for a discreet & humane way to put the dog out of its misery.

You're probably right

but unless you have the means and skills to give an intravenous injection the only reliable easily obtainable poison would be 10 mls of an organophosphorous insecticide in a bit of meat. This is a very persistant toxin and death is not instantaneous.

Potassium cyanide (a salt spoon full) would be the best but not likely to be obtainable + not without operator hazard !!

Modern drugs are very safe and I can't think of anything available over the counter or to be found in the back of a medicine cabinet that would work.

Thiobarbiturates

are commonly used in veterinary practice to euthanize an animal.

In large doses barbiturates have a direct depressant effect on the heart muscle as well and will cause the heart to cease to function. This is probably the actual cause of death in most instances when barbiturates are used for euthanasia.

Before making the decision to take drastic irreversible steps, I strongly suggest to consult a reliable DVM. Often an animal may seem beyond help when in reality a regiment of medical treatment can save the animal.

I hope I'm your friend

You know way too many ways to kill someone. :-)

This really blows but

I think by the time anyone fugures out the best way to do it the problem will already be solved...