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More Americans renouncing citizenshipSubmitted by Former NL Member on 18 December, 2006 - 07:35.
Small but increasing numbers of US citizens living abroad are giving up their US citizenship, but not for reasons you might think. During the Bush administration, a lot of people talk about being anti-US and anti-Bush, but more and more Americans are giving up citizenship for reasons normally associated with Conservatism - taxes. Bush (never to be confused with a conservative) signed into law a tax increase for Americans living abroad, and it's having the reverse effect of that intended (as many laws do). ( categories: )
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tell me it's not true, what is the progress re the decision on the canal. are there environmentalist there fighting this. i can't post blogs anymore, i guess i am just too extreme aka abbie hoffman, andy kaufman, and that other jewish comic who was censored, not to mention jim morrison
you should always be able....
to post blogs! may freedom ring! and free speech!
i remember
Lenny Bruce
Increasing?
Maybe the number overall is increasing but if so its is so smalls as it is still hard to measure. Even if you measure it complete correctly the number of people who do such a thing is so small as not to effect any tax collection basis. That certain people will opt out of such a system is not a surprise to the people who make the rules but rather assumed by them; they already know they will lose certain people on the high end and they calculate the profit from he people in the middle.
Well heck, somebody has got
Well heck, somebody has got to pay for all those expensive war toys.
A couple of years ago actually met one of these guys-- a US-born, white, anglo-saxon male, helicopter pilot, ex-US Army, who flies in Saudi Arabia. He showed me his Grenada Passport, as well as the US Visitor Visa so that he could visit his folks in the Southeast from time to time.
Interestingly, I believe the first $80K was exempt for US Citizen non-residents. A few years ago, the Bush Administration started making noises about eliminating that exemption, with the explanation that US Citizens still benefit from US Foreign Policy and diplomatic representation (so give me your money).
At around this same time the IRS also announced that it was intending to tax foreign airline crews for that portion of time that their flight would have been inside US Airspace (no other country does this). Needless to say, it caused an uproar in the Airline Industry (both for it's unfairness and difficulty to administer), and several countries announced that they would do the same to US pilots (so imagine, if you will, American Airlines pilots paying income tax to Cuba, or Northwest Airlines pilots paying income tax to the Islamic Republic of Iran).
I take it as a sign of desperation in the USA.
Don’t airlines already pay
Don’t airlines already pay a fee to use foreign air space? It probably isn’t that far away that the International Civil Aviation Organization which tracks flights around the world will also know backgrounds of individual passengers for security reasons.
How about a religion and ethnic field in the AFTN message. They already know how many passengers and crew are in a particular Flight Information Region. When the flight passes through a country’s FlR they could just as easily track passenger’s passport numbers and tax ‘em depending on their nationality.
Desperation?
Not at all. Politics as usual. Unless you missed the last 40+ years of Democratic Party politics, all they do is look for ways to increase taxes. Then there's "read my lips, no new taxes."
Government got itself an itch and it wants you to scratch it. Trillions spent to keep poor people poor. At least military members come out with a skill. Heck, I'll bet they generate enough economic activity in civilian life to have paid for their time in the military.
Lets call it . . . a legacy
Lets call it . . . a legacy of living beyond means.
yes, niether bush....
is conservative.
He had me fooled too!
But lesser of the two...
I am still GLAD Kerry did not win...
Just wish Bush was more of a warmonger than he is..Deplomacy is NOT going to work...
Lyin' Farmer John Wayne
amen.....
but we should never go into another country we are not prepared to nuke the country out of existence. we didn't intend to nuke north vietnam and we didn't intend to nuke iraq. the usa soldier's lives are not worth a country that won't stand up for itself. now that we need to nuke iran (a country where another hitler wants the 12th imam, armageddon) bush won't do it. of course, i would want to exhause every other alternative, like aid any insurgent iranian forces.
you know, that amen has got to get under the skin of some militant athiest's skin. probably shouldn't have used it. oh well, i'm not that politically correct.
Me niether..
Never have been PC... and to old to change.. pretty much set in ma' ways since I was 20...
Lyin' Farmer John Wayne
Income tax protection
There are some really good articles on how to avoid (legally) income tax if you are a US citizen on www.escapeartist.com. Taxes here in the US are rediculous and getting worse! I gotta get ou of here!
Thanks to Jim's inspiration and Roger Miller . . .
"Well you soul sellin' no good son of a shoe fittin' fire starters I ought to tear your no good preambulatory bone frame And nail it to your guv'ment walls all of you you bastard You dad gum guv'ment you sorry rakafratchits You got yourself an itch and you want me to scratch it"
so when you retire to nica....
are you thinking of renouncing your citizenship?
Depends
If I ever earn over $80-odd K a year, it might matter.
to renounce, i'd think you'd have to live abroad.....
so i was thinking that would mean retirement. then how would usa treat income produced in usa and sent outside usa? as you can see, i am not a tax lawyer.
No idea
I'm not a tax liar either.
were you mistreated
by a lawyer?
Naw
I've never even hired a lawyer.
We are gaining many more than we are losing.
I was recently at a ceremony in Chicago, where more than 300 persons from many different countries all recieved their citizenship. There will always be people who want to take a shot at the American Dream.