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Another Photo of the Shark FinsSubmitted by SJdS Cesar on 16 September, 2006 - 12:58.
![]() Here is another shot of the shark fins taken on 12 September in San Juan del Sur. I'm glad that my previous post is generating discussion on this important topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but remember it's just as important to listen to differing opinions. ( categories: )
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It's horrible for me to see that waste of life.
Shark finning?????? Nicaragua is the only place in the world with 'freshwater' sharks. It is a crime against posterity and nature to hunt these survivors. They are an example of evolution. I cry at the horror this picture shows. I am saddened and upset at the ignorance and desperation that leads Nicaraguans to exploit to extinction our true natural resources. P.S. Even if they are not freshwater shark fins, I still do not condone it slaying sharks just for their fins. They should be protected.
Lake Shark & Fin Slaying
First of all, nobody is killing any sharks in Lake Nicaragua where no sharks have even been seen in probably the last 50+ years.
"Dodgese" said: "Even if they are not freshwater shark fins, I still do not condone it slaying sharks just for their fins."
Who told you that any sharks were killed only for the "fins".
Please give me a link to your source.
From below link:
I have read much outright criticism and indignation below from the "NL" Seafood Experts.
Has anyone considered that shark meat is eaten and also sold in Nicaragua by Nicaraguans. Both eating and selling are legal in Nicaragua. Selling the shark fins are legal.
Selling and eating Turtle Meat is also legal in Nicaragua.
Miskito Alan ®
On the ropes but not extinct
I understand that there have been recent sightings of the freshwater shark around Solentiname Island.
The Japanese delivered a deadly blow with a few trawlers in the early 90's in a deal with Chomorro's government. They harvested thousands of them during a 2 year period. These concessions were granted in cooperation and aid given by Japan in the form of hospitals and roads.
Even around the Isletas the fishing is not what it used to be as recently as 10 years ago. Locals with gill nets have made even Guopote scarce. This was told to me by a local who fished many years in Lake Nicaragua.
more sources than space
My friend, MA, to think that sharks are NOT killed ONLY for their fins is just pie-in-the-sky (pick your flavor). To believe that sharks are NOT killed JUST for their fins IN Nicaragua is a fantasy, at best. Shark finning is a global multi-billion dollar enterprise. Google "shark finning"... 'nuff said??
As I said here, shark finning in Nicaragua IS illegal. The source for that is here.
Tons and tons (and tons) of shark fins are "harvested" to feed the Asian market. Taiwan has been a MAJOR culprit in this enterprise. It's all economics -- but that doesn't make it right.
As I stated in the post linked above, no one should object to people catching and eating sharks. The commercial practice of "harvesting" thousands of sharks solely for the fins for exportation to Asia to "feed" the marketplace is abhorrent. PERIOD.
[/non-seafood expert]
post script: I too eat shark meat and enjoy it. And I have had turtle meat with you Miskito Alan! Great meal, eh?
Shark Fins Illegal in Nica?
DGI & MEDEPESCA allows the export of shark fins.
If shark finning is illegal; how can exports of shark fins be legal in Nicaragua.
If illegal drugs are illegal; can those illegal drugs be exported from Nicaragua with the approval of DGI & MENSA?
The above link to the IATTC resolution does not apply to the domestic fishing industry; but, only applies to Eastern pacific international waters and this resolution (not law) certainly does not apply to the Atlantic Ocean.
What You Can Do:
Never consume shark fin soup.
Avoid all shark meat, including fish and chips and Mako.
Avoid products made with ingredients that come from sharks.
Shark liver oil is used in hemorrhoid ointments, and shark cartilage is sometimes sold in health food stores as a disease preventative.
Avoid consuming fish such as tuna and swordfish, which are caught using methods that have high bycatch of sharks and other species.
Urge your government to adopt domestic and international measures to protect sharks. If you live in the United States, ask the National Marine Fisheries Service to continue to advocate for stronger international protection for shark species, including a CITES listing for the spiny dogfish, which is usually exported as the common fish used in fish and chips. In other countries, contact the environmental and fishery ministries to urge them to protect sharks.
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High Points:
#1 - Suffer if you got hemorrhoids.
#2 - Don't eat at Capt. D's Seafood.
#3 - Forget all fish & chips.
#4 - No travel to England. Possibly tempted to eat fish & chips.
#5 - Forget tuna sandwiches.
#6 - Swordfish & Tuna are prohibited for menu choices.
#7 - Absolutely no dogfish.
Miskito Alan ®
Good point MA
Just because illegal aliens can be given amnesty; it doesn’t mean DGI & MENSA can approve illegal drugs and shark finning.
- yesterday's underdog is today's champion
Here's an article of the shark finning
Where are the fresh water sharks? By Josh Berman and Randy Wood, Moon handbooks.
How Carcharhinus leucas became the only shark in the world to be able to pass between saltwater and fresh water is a facinating story. After thousands of years of hunting in the brackish outflow of the Rio San Juan, Nicaragua's freshwater sharks made their way up the river and formed a healthy population in Lake Nicaragua. The tale continues with the arrival of humans and their role as both victims and hunters of Nicaragua's bull shark. A story recounted well in Edward Marriott's 2001 book, Savage Shore. Indigenous tribes on Ometepe worshiped the shark, sometimes feeding their dead to them.
This fear and reverence only faded when the Asian market for shark fin soup helped to create an industry around harvesting the famous fish, culminating in the late 1960s, when Somoza's processing plant in Granada butchered up to 20,000 sharks a year. Today, the only fresh water in the world is seldom seen, although it is still inadvisable to swim in the waters near San Juan del Norte. http://www.experiencenicaragua.com/freshwatersharks.html Maybe I jumped the gun at looking at the picture of the shark fins, again I apologize. You can also read this book on Fresh water shark fishing by Edward Marriot Savage Shore: Life and Death With Nicaragua's Last Shark Hunters (Paperback) http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Shore-Death-Nicaragua-Hunters/dp/0805055568 It was written on 2001. A quote from the book "The coastal and river people hunted the shark for its fins and for its oil, feared and revered it; every village had had family taken in its jaws. It was shark where shark should not be--in fresh water, on human territory."
an apology
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but remember it's just as important to listen to differing opinions." -Miskito Alan.
1. I apologize, but I saw a photo of only shark fins and I jumped to the conclusion that it was for the export of shark fins(only)for various homeopathic remedies using shark fins. 2. I , as an individual expressing myself only, do not condone any slaying of any sharks. That is my opinion, not a Nicaraguan law. 3. If you have not seen any freshwater sharks since 1956 in Lake Nicaragua, do not dismiss their existence and/or proclaim their extinction without evidence.
Here's my bibliography. http://www.elasmo-research.org R. Aidan Martin is the Director of the ReefQuest Centre for Shark Research (www.elasmo-research.org), a Research Associate of the Zoology Department of the University of British Columbia, and an Adjunct Professor of the Oceanographic Center of Nova Southeastern University.
No loch ness monster either
One place I read on the internet (so it HAS to be true) said in Asia they catch the sharks, whack off the fin, and let the shark swim off to bleed to death.
Blue Miskitu is SAD at this Posting
SAD, SAD.. how can we STOP this type of exportation? "Just the Fins the rest go back into the Ocean/Lake or River
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Blue ,,,/ {' ;'} Miskitu
I must say
There is a difference between opinion and unsolicited advice and like padredealyson has suggested, “If you don't know and don't care, please don't post...”.
My American opinion is that people ought to force their unsought and uneducated guesses on themselves, keep it there and attempt not to get it on anyone else for safekeeping.
- yesterday's underdog is today's champion
If we remove
"opinion" and "unsolicted advice" from this forum, it would not exist!
But I guess it is OK to post your "American opinion", solicited or not, and "uneducated" or not.
I take
you suppose you have the authority to pass judgment on me.
No comment
- yesterday's underdog is today's champion
Listen up underdog....
Regarding shark finning...
I DO care and I AM educated on the subject and I WILL post on the subject. You started this post denouncing opinion and unsolicited advice. Then you offered up both!
Then, for reasons unknown to me, you post a comment about my judging you....which I did not! I am not passing judgement on you, I am pointing out the fact that you post an "American opinion" which was unsought and, I believe, uneducated, while denouncing the act of doing what you did!
Then after your "comment" you add, "No comment".
What is your point? It escapes me!
Point?
That trajectory is still heading from point A to point duh.......
Are YOU listening?
- yesterday's underdog is today's champion
I am totally lost..
Padre?
Don't worry Tom
Padre has already given the perfect answer with his quote:
quote Submitted by padredealyson on 16 September, 2006 - 12:32. I think I have this GB Shaw quote correct:
"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place."
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I think all is lost
I feel very dissapointed that I posted on this thread. It got angry real quick!!!
Comment for "Dodgese"
John: The comment that you just replied to was posted two days ago.
Sometime, on "NL" some garbage must be swept under the rug to uncover the good "stuff".
Stick around and give "NL" a chance.
Miskito Alan ®
Could not agree
more, Alan.
I sure will
The body of your comment is empty. Short answers are my doom!
JFC !
PM me for a translation....I will be back when I figure out what planet I'm on.....
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good thing Marti
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FAP
Well...
UC was leading OSU for a while..... go Bearcats!
quote
I think I have this GB Shaw quote correct:
"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place."
Lex and Terry quote
"He who cares the least, wins."