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I know i have a reputation of lyin'
and this is second hand info, but this pic is OLD.
on the flite from Port to Mga. when you saw these you were about 30 minutes outside Mga.
I was told Cuba made a gift of that style of agraculture operations to Nicaragua.
But looking at it, they left a lot of wasted space between the circles. recient flites I have taken to Mga tells me it is gradually being abandonded.
Lyin' Farmer John Wayne
Irrigating
Those circular patterns from center pivot irrigating can be seen from your plane window all over the world for many years but a few years ago I started to see a lot of the traveling gun systems. Some are stationary and moved by hand but many are pulled in by the reel that the hose is wound on. They must work pretty good there are sure lot of them in use now.
Google Earth
All the google earth sat photos I have seen are close to 10 years old.I have a ten year old car sitting in my driveway that I don't own anymore.
some are as recent as 3 years . . .
some are as recent as 3 years I think. . .
I googgled my house
the other week and it was within 6 months of being on the money I had a 45 foot trailer that i moved and was not in the picture and i moved it in march so its pretty close on this part of the world. saw my old green car too!
Lyin' Farmer John Wayne
I reckon every 6 months or so
The pics are updated, my boat suddenly appeared in the lagoon at St Martin about 6 months ago. Incidentally is the San Juan river navigable (6 foot draught) up to Lake Nic ?
I have seen this while flying
over the western US. I believe they have a rotating sprinkler system that waters the plants and rotates about the center of each tiddly wink. They are growing stuff where stuff would not normally grow and sucking water out of the ground to do it.
they're probably sucking . . .
they're probably sucking . . . the water from Lake Managua to the left of the image.
doubtful...
Don't know for sure, but considering the pollution levels of the lake, I doubt they are irrigating crops with it. I know someone with about 8000 manzanas under tillage out there -- I'll try to find out if it's ground h2o or lake h2o.
Of course it is so close, the acquifers are probably nasty as well!!
Ground h2o
Update:
Niko sez they are pulling h2o from the ground but it isn't potable. And they only have two fields left using center pivot systems -- too expensive to maintain. Sez they have irrigation canals for most and use 2" rubber hoses to siphon h2o from the canals...
What is he growing?
And doesn't the stuff being grown absorb the stuff in the lake that makes it not potable?
What is he growing?
And doesn't the stuff being grown absorb the stuff in the lake that makes it not potable?
the earth and plants
have a natural ablity to pureify things for the consumption of humans and animals. When this natural ablity is destroid by chemicals and other perminate damageing things nothing works right.
there is no reason on earth mans excretment cannot grow food for animals and be in harmony with nature, its a question of cost and willingness.
Lyin' Farmer John Wayne
the old chamber pot
Its called night soil and many people in China would starve if they didn't add it to their veg. gardens.
Heavy, man
If the rubbish tip is leaking crap into the lake there will be heavy metals and other toxic industrial chemicals in the water which, sadly, some plants actually concentrate. Carrots, for example, used to concentrate lead from leaded petrol when grown in city gardens.
and mercury is a problem there I believe.
and mercury is a problem there I believe.
I agree with john
but it is the heavy metal that concerned me. Isn't there a lot of lead in the lake?
Sadly
There will be lead from car batteries, cadmium from old rechargeable batteries, manganese,mercury - batteries, thermometers, plus GOK what organics, certainly horrendous persistant organophosphates from discarded sugar cane pesticide containers, you name it it will be in there. How sad and unneccesary. They could probably have tipped the lot into an active volcano !
and anger the gods . . .
and anger the gods . . . careful what you put into a volcano ; )
Only
tiresome children and tax inspectors normally, but the answwer to our current energy dilemma is nuclear power and shoot the waste into the Sun which would love it so perhaps a volcano would really appreciate a Chateau Mercure avec son sauce DDT
Uranium plants
Most of the world particularly China are still buiding them. They are much safer than they used to be and their is an almost limitless fuel supply but there hasn't been a new one in the U.S. for sometime.
It takes about the equivalent of one barrel of oil in natural gas to recover 4 barrels of oil from the tar sands in Alberta. I wouldn't be surprised to see them build a couple of nuclear reactors to handle that job.
Shooting the radioactive waste into the sun sounds like a pretty risky way to get rid of it. You would have to transport it across country from the reactors to the launch area and then you would have to hope that there would be no rocket failures.
fission - it's not just for madmen anymore.
It's already transported cross country all the time. Nothing special about that.
Like I posted on oil, why is it ok for the rest of the world to have nuclear power, but the country that "uses the most" (the EvilUS) has to be kept shackled, held hostage?
Interesting
this discussion has moved from an old Google photo to nuclear power but so much the better. I don't see any way out of the Nuclear option, after all our Sun has been doing it successfully for a fair old time, albeit fusion not fission.If Georgy twin ewe manages to get his head around the horrors the US are doing to the climate then his nuke 'em tendencies might be usefully applied. I was once discussing life with a gent from the US Secret Service over several G+T’s. We bemoaned the lack of compatibility everywhere – mains plugs, air line fittings, fire hydrants, every tool of the trade just about. At least, he said, you don’t have to do elevator keys. It turns out one of his jobs is extricating the President from lifts. If young George accidentally finds himself inside a small steel-lined room with more than just one large red button marked ‘NUKE ‘EM’ to press he gets confused and can spend many happy hours going up and down while the Service have to pound up the fire escape in pursuit. This guy has to carry a sort of trousseau, a lift key miscellany, round with him. ‘What’s the old fool stuck in this time?’ ‘An Otis Mk8/B’ ‘Has it got carpets? ‘ ‘Yep’ ‘Gee then it’s a Wanda 96’. This is then thrust into the inconspicuous slot you may see at the top of the door to paralyse it so The Man can be dragged out and smacked round the Presidential Head with a Smith and Wesson. No doubt a country with 325 sorts of elevator key is as ungovernable as France with 252 varieties of cheese. MY Sun solution, BTW, depends on one of these http://www.isr.us/SEConcept.asp?m=2 to avoid the unpleasant quinsiquonces of a rocket not performing to spec when the blue touchpaper was lit.
sure the sun does fusion but,
sure the sun does fusion but, no one lives there ; )
I think for a president to encourage nuclear he ought to be required to pronounce it.
What's with that speech impediment that some folks have ; )
Perhaps
nuculer energy is safer. I think the US president's speech problem is called Locutio per Anum, also known as Blair's Syndrome.
Who wants to live on the Sun, there are no bars.
Oh, you mean Bush?
Jimmy Carter used to say "new-Q-lah" and he was involved in developing new-Q-lah submarines in the Navy.
Funny how the current president scored higher on college tests than his opponent, and he's the one called a dummy.
Is there a cure . . .
Is there a cure . . . I know it'll go away in two more years
Very infectious
Even changing the carpet in the Ovum Office didn't prevent transmission so I fear it will be passed on.
I think the Matrix . . .
is the solution to our currrent energy crisis . . . humans as coppertops. ingenious, those machines
if it's only excrement . . .
if it's only excrement . . . and it's taken up through the roots it's not a problem . . . but heavy metal contamination will leach right up into the produce . . . so it depends what the water table is contaminated with . . . we use post sewage sludge here as well but, only every five years because of the high levels of inorganic compounds that remain in the waste.
ecoli outbreaks are an annual event here on imported produce from south of the border where the topical watering of ecoli contaminated water is applied to berries. It's easy to kill with washing but berries don't like to be washed before taking a long trip and kids especially don't like to wash their fruits before eating.
Doppelganger
We both must have posted the same comment at the same time.
But these are BIG
I had thought of that, as you say some cattle are raised on grass lots like this in arid areas but these are huge. Is Nic organised enough to do things on this scale ?
it's not that big an orgaizational thing to water crops
it's not that big an orgaizational thing to water crops . . .
Organised enough?
Yes, there are individuals and companies with the resources to run those irrigation systems (but if you give me a bottle of FDC I'll swear these are crop circles made by aliens).
If you zoom in on some the older ones in the lower portion of the pic (quality of the satelite image gets better) you can see the circular patern inside the circle.
I posted on this a long time ago, but it may have been lost
Center pivot is the technical term for it, but it's something like radial irrigation. A giant arm with a watering mechanism, drawing water from a central well, sweeps majestically around the circle spreading water, fertilizer, and pesticides on the crop.
It was developed to increase the efficiency of land use for farming, and is used a lot in the US. I've flown over these in Nicaragua low enough to see that the radial mechanisms are long abandoned and "conventional" farming has taken over. Too much trouble to maintain the mechanisms? Or just another failed attempt to impose a gringo solution in a Latin American world.
The link below says it saves labor, which in a place where labor is "free" and materials are expensive makes no sense.
http://www.lindsaymanufacturing.com/green_center_pvt.asp