What's the deal with vos instead of tu?

What's the deal with vos instead of tu? Is tu used at all in Nicaragua? Does vos use all of the tu conjugations?

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Spanish FOR DUMMIES

You may hear a variation of the vosotros in Argentina or Colombia, Vos trabajás ( you work ). From a grammatical standpoint, this form is totally incorrect, so don't try to copy it. - Pg.39

- "If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun" Katherine Hepburn

Hoy o Amor!

I say hoy or amor.

No vos!

Miskito Alan &#174

Hoy MA

This comes from the verb oir, you'd say oy! or hoy! It means "listen up".

vos

The conjugation of vos is different to tu and is a lot simpler as well.

In order to form vos you just "cut" the last consonant of the verb and replace it with an S. the last syllable is accentuated, so put an accento on it:

tener => vos tenés

comer => vos comés

venir => vos venís

there is one exception, that is ser

ser => vos sos

The imparative also works differently from the tu-form. Take the verb and omit the last consonant, accentuate the last syllable:

andar => andá

venir => vení

mirar => mirá

(as opposed to anda - ven - mira)

The vos is an old Spanish form. One of the four forms tu-vos-Ustedes-Vosotros (majestic plural).

In Nicaragua vos is a form for friends. Historically, tu is considered lesser than vos. However, in mixed foreigner-nicaraguan environments I made the experience that a Nicaraguan and I would start to treat each other with tu, but still it would feel weird to address him/her with vos.

and I supppose the irregulars are different as well . . .

and I supppose the irregulars are different as well . . .

Observation

Thanks, Cmoore, FAP and Nicoya for the observation(s), i was trying to keep things simple.

In conjugating vos as used in Nica, i also added the plural form as is used in Spain.

I'd like to suggest that is better for a non-spanish speaking person traveling into spanish speaking countries, to use the personal pronoun "Usted" or the plural "Ustedes" instead of tu or vos, this will put some distance from you and the other person and will also show respect, specially when dealing with burocrats.

Al

Indegenousim:

the deal with vos instead of tu.

Old habits die hard.

- yesterday's underdog is today's champion

This node has a pretty good

This node has a pretty good discussion of vos:

http://www.nicaliving.com/node/1757

thanks Marlies

thanks Marlies, I wish I could say that cleared it up. Somewhere I'll have to see how vos is conjugated. I haven't even found a text yet that mentions it.

Vos Conjugated

Vos sos=Tu eres=You are (Singular)

Vosotros sois=Ustedes son=You are (Plural)

I hope is right.

Al

Al

You got it right.

It is actually a BIG deal in Nicaragua.

My aunt's been married to a German for 30 years. We loved it when the guy finally started using VOS instead of TU. As if he was finally becoming one of us. It actually took him quite a few years to master it. He never went back to Germany. His parents must come to Nicaragua if they want to see him. That’s another story.

Another example, when you speak directly to a person and say, sit-down.

"tu": sientate (rarely used in Nicaragua).

"vos": sentate (as used in Nicaragua).

"usted": sientese (you'd use "usted" as way of showing respect).

All three cases mean YOU.

As you can see, the verbs must be conjugated accordingly. The conjugation of the verb tells you who the subject is.

If you are learning Spanish, I would not bother too much learning the use of VOS. Using TU is perfectly fine and is what most Nicas would expect you’d use.

On the other hand, I'd be disappointed to hear our “more Nica than pinol MA”, use TU but then again, he only speaks bubble.

The word

is not used in Nicaraguan spanish, per say, the word Vosotros is a spanish, from Spain, meaning You,plural or Ustedes .

The word Vos is a singular word often used in Nicaragua.

Examples in different phrases:

1) Vos Estas Loco, or Estas loco vos!

2) Vos, veni para aca! Donde queda eso vos?, You, come here! and Do you know where that is?

just to name a couple,it could be used at the beggining of a sentence or at the end or in between.

FAP

it was said that it conjugates different than tu

it was said (Nicoya, I think) that it conjugates different than tu but, you've used estas as you would with tu.

Tu = Vos

Tu is the same as vos, but us, Nicaraguan use vos, what nicoyawas saying is that for you gringos/expats would be perfectly fine to use the Tu, Tu eres, instead of Vos sos.

Tu eres un Gringo loco

versus the Nica way.

Vos sos un Gringo loco

FAP

so all verbs have a vos conjugation?

so all verbs have a vos conjugation? are they in Nica schoolbooks or are they learned at home?

Actually,

in using "vos" as the subject for you, the spelling of the verb form is similar to the vosotros form, with the "i" removed. Examples of this are: vos tenés, vos hablás, vos vivís, etc. The stress is on the last syllable of each form, and the "s" sounds like the spanish "j", in other words, aspirated. You won't find it in a textbook anywhere - it is referred to as "el voseo" when looking for it.

Si, en casa.

I think it'd be too complicated to learn it at school. Just kidding ya.

Most verbs (then you get into regular and irregular verbs and all of that mess) when you use VOS must conjugated accordingly.

Perhaps FisherCigarMan is too young to remember/know but my grandma, Doña Magdalena Ubeda de Rodriguez, taught proper Nica Spanish in Esteli to an entire generation. She is a proud Nicaraguan and I owe my appreciation of VOS to her. Somepeople consider using TU as a simbol of higher status. Mi abuela taught me how that was a complete nonsense at an early age.

If you can, got for it! It will score you huge points in Nicaragua.

Stop the boldness!

did that work? There. I put in a "< / b >" for you.

Done!

I'm gone 3 days to Corn Island and nobody will stop the bold.

Done now!

Miskito Alan &#174

Welcome back . . .

Welcome back . . . thanks for getting the bold off. I know how to put it on damned if I know how to remove it though. gracias

I'd stop

if I had started it!

I hate it also.

Wow,

hate is a bold word.

looks like I picked it up from FAP

lo siento señores

Excellent Arlington

Practice makes perfect :-)

FAP

gracias mi amigo

gracias mi amigo,

¿Puedo llamarme yo Roberto o se queda llamó Robert en Nicaragua?

Cualquiera/either one

Usted(notice y did not use vos,out of respect)Puede usar Roberto or Robert. down there they would prefer Roberto of course.

FAP

and I would prefer if . . .

and I would prefer if . . . Roberto were down there as well ; )

Y preferiría si Roberto estaba allá también.

Y refinado tambien

Felicitación.

- yesterday's underdog is today's champion

Si, señor

Usted Roberto, es un caballero muy educado!

A la gran flauta!

how do you interpret . . .

how do you interpret . . . A la gran flauta! - the dictionary is no help ; ) sounds like a compliment in there ; )

that's like saying

A la gran flauta: = Holy $hit!! holy cow, damns!! the Flauta nicoya just added it, instead of flauta we usually use a bad word, between friend.

nicoya you should have wrotte A Lagran tuta or chucha instead, you confused Don Roberto with your flauta lol.

FAP