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What is the point with the recent demonstrations? What is the point with the FSLN reaction to it?
Submitted by johanneswilm on Thu, 2008/11/20 - 18:23.
Are these demonstrations planned by US State Department and CIA in order to destabalize a country that's back on its way toward socialism?
Or is this a dictatorial government squeezing out the opposition after frauding an election?
Or is it both?
http://johanneswilm.org/index.php/item/169
What is the point with the violence, and where will this all lead?
I made this little video about the confrontaion on Sunday here in Leon.
I look forward to all kinds of comments, although I prefer the constructive ones.

Goodness
What did i miss? Chaq
david, soy culo bueno o culo malo?
practiquen . http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-4395204501758085595
buses
I actually went to Managua and interviewed those coming with the buses. It´s like fyl said: the FSLN organizes the buses, but they don´t control the brains of those coming here. I got some people saying really smart stuff, and others saying not so smart or contradictory things. It certainly isn't all the same. But they are all happy, that´s for sure.
On concerns of this Mark--guy saying I don't have a future in journalism because he disagrees with me... Please guys, let's keep it professional. We should be able to disagree without immediately telling oneanother that we aren't prepared to do our job. As to US interest -- what about the banana-industry? Check out this guy that Obama appointed a few days ago: http://www.bananabook.org/discovolonte/2008/11/obamas-pick-for-attorney-...
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
Banana industry?
Really? With all due respect, this isn't the 70s anymore. They really don't have any power in the States anymore. Proof? Check out this Wikipedia article on lobbying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States)- all Agribusiness combined ranks 9th in spending, and that includes all the Big Farming companies in the States (e.g., Monsanto, who spent >$6 million on lobbyists in '08: http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Monsanto+Co&year=20...).
Then tour on over to OpenSecrets.org, which tracks spending by individual companies. Chiquita Brands spent a total of $120k in 2008 (http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Chiquita+Brands+Int...), and Dole spent $145k (http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Dole+Food&year=2008). Compare that to Halliburton at $290k (on the record, plus the fact that Cheney is their ex-CEO; http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Halliburton+Co&year...), or $10 *million* for GM (http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=General+Motors&year...) - and they couldn't even buy a bailout with that $10M!!!
I just don't see how the banana industry has any power in the States anymore. As for Holder, sure he defended Chiquita in a case that disgusts me, but he was a defense lawyer, that's what they do. Like it or not, everyone in the States has a right to a lawyer - even companies like Chiquita or criminals like Bush/Cheney & co.
I maintain that the States just doesn't give a dang - certainly not enough to invest the time and money required to insert itself into the country and manipulate the elections.
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"Life is what happens while we're busy making other plans." - Pablo Neruda
I am totally in favor of
I am totally in favor of everybody getting a defense lawyer, including Chiquita, yet not all kinds of people need to be in the White House. Chiquita is still top priority, this shows, With bio-fuels and other stuff coming up, this will likely just increase. In addition: Bananas might be a smaller issue than before, but Nicaragua is a small country, and a revolution relatively cheap. They probably wouldn't invade China, India or Pakistan for bananas. But throw a few million and some outdated weapons at Montealegre is quite another thing.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
We are just killing time
We are just killing time waiting for Venezuela's election to close Sunday.
rock paper scissors. you cant beat scissors with paper.
y Tu con Tu año ya en nicaragua el unico que verificaste es que hay preguntas enigmáticas ?
y Tu con Tus añales de estudio a que costo le tengo que enseñar YO?
que escuela.
mirá. hay guerreros y hay cochones. Daneil tuvo cuantos años en preso, y cuantos años en guerra ¿ el macho sabe que estar listo, gane aunque no pelea. una vez su murió Daniel?
no le gana al daniel con palabras. y que Fuera ganarle con hechos? mirá.
En la ensangrentada Sicilia de a comienzos del siglo XX, se estilaba un dicho para delatar a los autores intelectuales de algún asesinato: “El primero en enviar las flores, fue el que ordenó su muerte”.
Hoy leía con interés el comunicado, con lenguaje mesurado, que emitiera el Ministerio de Defensa; en el, se manifiesta la “preocupación” de las fuerzas armadas por el rumbo que pudiese tomar la Nación frente a los acontecimientos violentos de la post-elección. En el mismo comunicado, la “Secretaria” Tapia Roa, reitera la apoliticidad y lo no-deliberante del Ejercito Nacional.
Quien se creerá esta?
Quien podrá creer que la “Secretaria” de Defensa tendría la osadía de arrogarse un comunicado con la autonomía que lo haría cualquier ministro de defensa en un país civilizado? Por supuesto que NO.
Cualquier NICA con dos dedos de frente sabe que para que la “Secretaria” emita tal comunicado, este le fue dictado por algún asistente, de los que saben leer y escribir, en la secretaría del f$ln. Y que el propósito fundamental de dicho comunicado conlleva el deseo del tirano-pirómano de comenzar a apaciguar su propio incendio.
Ya ortega creó la crisis, ahora le es oportuno jugar al papel de “componedor” y “perdona-vidas”; antes que la crisis de su propia creación, se le salga de sus manos. Y es que ortega, o más acertadamente alguno de sus asistentes que saben leer y escribir, le han de haber hecho notar al tirano que al saturar Managua con sus paramilitares, sicarios, terroristas callejeros y turbas; han dejado casi vacías las ciudades de los Departamentos. Y que si Montealegre o Quiñones tuviesen dos dedos de frente en cuanto a estrategia, o que si ellos contaran con algún asistente que tuviese dos dedos de frente en cuanto a estrategia; esta sería la oportunidad de oro para aislar Managua y tomarse todos los Departamentos. Pero NO, ellos no piensan asi.
palabras palabras, los cochones el johan y eduardo. y yo aqui, una mierda de cochones.
dime johanes me entendiste? entiendes el español, hijo?
sí, te entendí bien. Pero
sí, te entendí bien. Pero no estoy de acuerdo. Los liberales simplemente son muy pocas personas -- al menos aqui en León. Simplemente quieren la ayuda de los EE.UU. para ganar la alcaldia. -- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
bueno, no soy "tu". entonces
bueno, no soy "tu". entonces es como expliqué, que al montealegre le faltan huevos para enfrentamiento y les faltan gasolina. y usted hizo Exit Poll¡?
si, usted no quiere ser
si, usted no quiere ser "tu"/"vos" -- yo no lo quiero ser tampoco. No hice exit pol, pero leí el ultimo Gallup-CID -- 5% arriba por Alexis.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
no se puede creer
no se puede creer lo que uno no tiene el la vista. pero de todos modos me alegre que está investigando. espero que a hora se haga un negocio, digamos loteria pulperia vendepan et cetera lo que sea y que siga con el frente aprendiendo para saber con sus hojos que cosa es nicaragua.
Who to blame?
That seems to be the most popular question. Much like Doug said, I think there is enough blame to share with everyone and that at the "representative level" the goal is to keep people distracted with not liking "the other folks" so they won't notice that things are getting worse no matter who is in power. I feel those that want to label one side as good and the other as bad are just missing part of the picture.
I am not sure if your choice to interview the PLC candidate for Alcalde and not the FSLN one was planned or a convenience but the PLC dude seemed to be very much "we won and we will prove it" with all too much emphasis on legal whereas the FSLN people seemed to just be ordinary people acting on their own. I would be inclined to say that any FSLN-side violence was likely to just be "excited supporters" rather than an organized effort. That statement, however, seems to conflict with "mainstream reporting".
I do know that some people from local and national government offices were told "they will go to Managua" on Tuesday but I don't think this was anything more an issue of "showing numbers". I certainly didn't see or hear of any plan for violence.
They are organized.
I am non-political here, but anyone can see that has eyes all of the organized FSLN rallies on every street. I saw them loading buses today down streets off the North Hwy. Many young people. They are coming into Manauga from Leon, San Rafael, and I am sure other places as well. The only time violence hasn't happened is when the Liberals don't show up. They are organized.
Today's Buses
Today's bus trip is for a celebration. The final election results were announced last night so this makes sense.
showing numbers
http://www.alertnet.org/thefacts/imagerepository/RTRPICT/2008-11-17T0211...
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefdxxSZJks0ALm.jzbkF/SIG=126b7blfv/EXP=122...
http://www.laprensa.com.ni/archivo/especiales/galerias/interno/index.php...
"three liberal radio stations in León were burned down to the ground by mobs" http://no.indymedia.org/node/8970
You're right... I'll add a
You forgot the start of the sentence which was "it was reported that" -- in other words I didn't see this by myself. Big difference!
But you're right...
I'll add a comment that initial stories were completely exaggerated.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
I did interview the FSLN
I did interview the FSLN dude. It' at the very end of video #3. As to why I had more Sandinistas talking: they were simply more chatty. I tried to get some of the liberals to talk, but they seemed to not have a clue and just send me to their leader. I don't know if you can tell, but when the PLC-guy says that they are "pacific people" then what can be seen are liberals throwing stones at Sandinistas.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
Vet du hva Johannes.
Jeg skammer meg over deg.
Du er Dansk og reiste til Norge, og dette er rusultatet av alle de kronene som er brukt paa deg.
Skam deg, du er en bortskjemt dritt sekk. Roger.
Ehm, could you please
Ehm, could you please explain? What part don't you like? Do you write Norwegian so that the forum owner doesn't get that you're just writing personal attacks without any arguments?
You say that a lot of crowns have been spent on me and that this is the result of that, an that now you're angry with me (I guess that last part). I really don't get it. If those pictures that are marked as your homepage show you, you have a way bigger house than what I can ever dream of getting. What exactly have I done to piss you off so much? You didn't like that I interviewed both parts in this conflict and basically risked my life in a rain of stones (I'll get a helmet next time)? Should I only have interviewed the liberal guy, who you might happen to like? Or only the Sandinista guy?
Are you mad because I outed Mr. Cardenal's little scam?
I tried figuring it out by reading our recent posts, but I couldn't get any further than that you wrote in a recent post "The bottom line is that you have to be a decent person - treat people with respect,and you will receive respect." And that just seems to contradict 100% with your attack on me here.
Fact is that I have no clue why you are attacking me, so I'd really like for you to expand on that.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
I feel that Roger did not attack you
He simply voiced his opinion of you and what you do.
I'm sure you have been called worse than a "spoiled sh#tbag".
Interestingly enough, you appear to be the stereo typical "Socialist / communist". Forever looking at the posessions of others with envy but not being willing to do a lick of real work in order to get ahead. I would not consider what you do productive or beneficial to any society.
Please could you possibly explain what it is that you do that can be considered productive in a conventional sense?
Is it you meddling in the politics of countries other than your own? Im curious...
Thank you for your time.
PS. You may be surprised how many languages people on this board speak.
attacks
He probably thought it was a personal attack because there's a consistent group of drama queens here that can't lay off the name calling and personal attacks. It disgusts me seeing grown men act like middle school girls at a post-Elton John Concert slumber party. Some testosterone might help a few of you "guys" toward recovery.
What are the ages of the Schoolgirls?
Sorry,it's just that the wifes away for a few days. I am so confused sometimes as a Member of this site about "Politics" who me Left? Right? middle? up your bum. I like having all kinds including Americans, sigh, now please don't get the Europeans pissed off. Young Jo has to have his say,so does young Jon..both Europeans..and Roger. I might add you have no idea about European Balls. Now only if we could have more Scottish..the chosen people on here.
I guess I need to translate
I guess I need to translate the comment of Roger:
"You know what Johannes. Submitted by rogertroll on 22 November, 2008 - 21:41.
I'm ashamed of you.
You are Danish and traveled to Norway, and this is the result of all the crowns that have been spent on you.
Shame on you, you are a spoiled brat. Roger."
Sorry, but wtf is that supposed to mean? He obviously seems to be attacking me for a too high life style. That's why I needed to defend myself.
I don't even know which side he attacks me from. One person sent me an email claiming Roger has personal connections to Ortega. So I take it he is attacking me for not being positive enough to the Sandinistas? That's funny, cause most others here have been attacking me for the opposite.
As to productive activity, I don't think I owe you an answer. But for starters, you can check my CV, which can be found on my website.
Besides, journalism IS a normal productive activity. And if you compare my video and the article in the Economist, I think you'll notice quite quickly that I'm actually giving both sides a possibility of presenting their case. For example, I didn't cut out any of what the liberal guy said, although I clearly don't agree with him.
btw, I don't view real-estating as a productive activity either. Yet that doesn't mean that I disqualify you from having an opinion.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
I was a professional journalist ...
... at a fairly advanced level for most of my working life and your output in no way resembles professional journalism in either quality or quantity.
I say this not as a personal attack, but rather as a statement of fact.
Yeah, apparently you're
Yeah, apparently you're right! As Time Magazine and the Economist present perfectly well, what you do instead of asking the two sides about their opinion and then find where they are inconsistent, you just reword the press releases of the State Department and make a call only to Montealegre, not to the other side, and make sure not to even google the guy.
Seriously though, I chatted with my Economist-friend earlier today, and he said it's frightening how they send out "journalists" to write articles that actually get published, that have only been in the field for a few days and get just about everything wrong.
I am currently writing my PhD thesis in social anthropology at Goldsmiths College, University of London about the Sandinista movement, for those who for some reason or other haven't gotten that yet.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
¨¨I am currently ...
... I am currently writing my PhD thesis in social anthropology at Goldsmiths College, University of London about the Sandinista movement, for those who for some reason or other haven't gotten that yet.¨
Why is it that you think you are significant enough for other people to get it?
Because the information that
Because the information that this guy requested about me is one click away.
Btw, from this moment on I will not answer more of your or Roger's messages. Someone has sent me a message, warning me that both of you are alcoholics and that I shouldn't take late-night postings very seriously. Thanks to the anonymous helper for that information, and to you and Roger: please stop posting when you're drunk! It will mean this conversation actually can get somewhere. -- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
From this moment ...
¨From this moment on I will not answer more of your or Roger's messages.¨
You obviously believe that this is actually some form of punishment!
I suppose I could respond to your spurious and groundless personal attacks on my character and habits, but doing so would assign a rather inflated level of relevance to your opinions.
Mr. Wilm
There is a substantial difference between writing a PhD thesis in social anthropology and actively being productive.
Let's just say,(for arguments sake), that one day you will finish your thesis. Then what? Is social anthropology really going to contribute to the betterment of society or is is just another field where students unable to compete in the traditional sciences end up piddling away their time and their parents or the states money?
This question is not meant to offend but is IMO a reasonable question.
I really don't expect you to answer the question. What I do expect is your standard reply to questions you find difficult to answer: "I don't think I owe you an answer."
Not that this surprises me coming from someone that, according to his own website, has spent virtually his entire "adult" life in the service of political parties, student organizations, and "anti" something clubs.
Like anyone else here you and I are entitled to our opinions. I think I made my opinion of you and what you do in and to Nicaragua clear.
By the way, your translation is Rogers post is taking a lot of liberties. He did not call you a "drittunge" (brat). He called you: "en bortskjemt dritt sekk." "a spolied sh#t bag." Please don't twist the words of others to make yourself look better.
Have a nice day.
Hey Jon
¨´Is social anthropology really going to contribute to the betterment of society or is is just another field where students unable to compete in the traditional sciences end up piddling away their time and their parents or the states money?´´
Jon, I suppose I should be offended by this remark since cultural anthropology was the focus of my studies during the brief period I attended university, and I have kept up my reading and intererst in it ever since.
I take a middle ground. I believe that at one point anthropology played an extremely important role in the development of critical thought, by exploring the richness and value of the lifeways and belief systems of colonized populations. As a result it helped provide a social science foundation for the process of decolonization, much as Franz Fanin did in the field of social psychology.
However, social anthropology did eventually degenerate into the sterility and pointlessness of academic marxism and semiotics and has become increasingly irrelevant every since.
As a result, your observation is correct. The formal study of anthropology has today become like the formal study of social geography ... a refuge for fifth'rate intellects that cannot withstand the rigours of true social science inquiry, or the demands of the everyday workplace.
If anyone requires evidence of the sad decline of sociocultural anthropology, consider the posts of the individual who started this thread.
Interesting observations
and significantly more eloquent stated by you than I could have managed.
I would like to make it clear that my question was not meant to be a sarcastic one. I am seriously curious why anyone would chose that particular field of study. (Social anthropology)
I agree with your statement: "I believe that at one point anthropology played an extremely important role in the development of critical thought, by exploring the richness and value of the lifeways and belief systems of colonized populations. As a result it helped provide a social science foundation for the process of decolonization, much as Franz Fanin did in the field of social psychology." What astonishes me, are the numbers of blind followers of left wing ideology that populate the classrooms and lecture halls of this particular "specialty".
Where are the graduates with degrees in Social anthropology hoping to find gainful employment? I venture to guess they are not even planning on trying. They will simply chose to add another equally impractical degree to their collection. They are the perpetual students.
These are the "intellectuals" that only too often look upon the "common folks" that put in an honest days work in disgust. Many times they forget that is "The common man/woman" working is his/her factory job, paying his/her taxes, that provide the money that allows them to live the life of the student. (This is especially true in Europe.) When the money provided by the public purse runs out they will be the first ones to complain.
Mike, I am willing to guess that your knowledge in cultural anthropology far exceeds that of Mr. Wilm.
Social anthropology
As to social anthropology: I
As to social anthropology: I actually agree that a lot is dead in the sense that one is studying things that don't make any difference. I got almost a little angry when I was with a group of anthropologists looking at texts from master-degree students and they specifically criticized one person for "coming up with solutions" -- they thought anthropologists shouldn't think about such things.
However, that is not all social anthropology. A lot of it is about figuring out why government programs don't work, for example. It is structures somewhat differently from country to country and in the Norwegian/British version it is almost the same as sociology. The difference is just that sociologists go out with question schemes and ask hundreds, but only give them say 10 different choices for answers. Or sociologists do interviews with some 10-25 people. Basically the problem with that is that people (everywhere, always) are lying. There are loads of different codecs in the room when the interview is done -- customs as to how one interacts with a person of the sex, skincolor and nationality of the interviewer, customs as to what kinds of things one talks about, customs as to how one expresses oneself (a good example is the way I and Gringita understand the word "dictatorship" differently), customs as to what kinds of things one lies about, etc. . The sociologist often don't get a lot of that. That's why social anthropologists simple are send somewhere or another for a longer time. They often don't do formal interviews, but just hang around offices or places of general gathering and just try to figure things out that way.
Unfortunately, social anthropologists and spies share a lot in common, and so in the past a lot of anthropologists have offered their services to such organizations of either Soviet Union or USA.
Anthropology is my study path, but the thing I "do" is maintaining web servers for various Norwegian NGOs, and help program webpages and stuff like that.
As to a discussion on the "value" of various jobs: well, first I'd like to make three categories:
1. those jobs that create a service to mankind. In this category you might find farmers who are producing food that is actually eaten by someone, oilworkers that are technically needed, doctors when they actually are treating a disease with something else than a placebo, etc. .
2. those jobs that neither create nor destroy much of anything. Here you find a whole range of jobs that only exist because we have a rather strange production and distribution system in place worldwide. Here you can have a Wall Street banker who spends his entire day (also doing overtime) doing something that isn't technically needed. You can also find people creating advertisement, the production of placebos, people inventing copy-prevention-mechanisms, people inventing mechanisms to make products automatically fail after a given time, etc. These jobs at times also create more work in sector 1, simply because people need or are told they need to buy more.
3. those jobs that destroy, and thereby require more work of sector 1 to be done. Obviously this is soldiers, arms industry, etc.
Now you wonder where social anthropologists fit in. Like many things, likely in parts 1 and 2. If they just do nothing and are never used for anything, then its 2. If they figure out how a product is used and manage to help to prevent throwing away valuable resources, then it's 1. Of course, if working as a KGB or CIA operative, they may also be in 3. In addition they can at times write interesting books for people who will never be able to go to some other part of the world for an extended period of time, and that would also belong to 1.
In my case, I hope to do the last, and in addition will hopefully be able to work as a resource to make connections between European political movements who want to get in contact with the MRS or FSLN. In addition, specifically in Norway there is a tradition by the newspapers to ask anthropologists to comment when something happens in a far away part of the world, that doesn't immediately make sense to Norwegians. Like for example when a Nicaraguan Ernest Cardenal suddenly shows up in Oslo and starts talking about the "dictatorship" in his country. Then they need to know who he is, why he uses such words, etc. And that's stuff he cannot just tell them directly himself.
Anyways, this conversation is clearly off-topic. I think I'm done with it for now. Btw, real-estate-agents are probably to be placed firmly in category 2: that is that their work is only needed because we have capitalism as a production system on a world level, not because there is some inherent need for someone to be able to speculate and make money by speculating on property prices. -- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
I agree
Formal study in the history of social anthropology is certainly more valuable than maths for just anyone who emigrates to a diffierent culture.
The fact that sociocultural anthropology is quickly and progressively becoming a ´dead´ social science should not inhibit anyone from studying it. For example, my knowledge of Latin is helping me adjust to spanish despite the fact that the former is a dead language.
Nonetheless, the fact remains that sociocultural anthropology has completed its historic task in social science, because all competent critical theorists are now aware of the ethnocentricity of Euro'American assumptions and the importance of microstudies, and have adjused accordingly.
I think it is a great pity that social anthropology becaue the preserve of flaccid theory and intellectual charlatans. Nonetheless, I would never discourage anyone from studying its greatest discoveries, despite the that they are now passe and no new work of any value has emerged from this field in more than a decade and a half.
I would think
that you apply what you learned while studying mathematics quite frequently. I imagine it was helpful throughout your life. Had you chosen to follow a carrier in the field of mathematics you likely could have done well in that field and economically. (I'm not saying you didn't do well. I just cant think of another way to phrase it right now.)
I still would like an answer to my question how one would find gainful employment in that specialty other than in a university.
Interesting field? Maybe. Practical? Not in my opinion. Someone please change my mind.
"Purpose" of advanced degrees
Nicareal,
I'm sure the same could be asked of any advanced degrees, short of perhaps advanced technical or professional degrees (engineering, business, law). What's the point of a PhD in just about any field? Well, first off, somebody has to teach the next generation of students. Secondly, PhDs can act as advisors - in this example, perhaps for companies looking to invest in Nicaragua, or for a wide variety of governmental or non-governmental organizations working, or looking to work, within the country. Or, as he said, writing a book.
It sounds to me like you're veering dangerously close to anti-intellectualism, which is just as biased as the anti-proletariat bias you're accusing him of. Why can't there be space at the table for everyone - this world needs intellectuals as well as it needs people working in the fields.
Nicole (another PhD student in an "impractical" field)
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"Life is what happens while we're busy making other plans." - Pablo Neruda
That's the second time on this thread
I have been accused of anti-intellectualism. ;=)
I have to smile about these comments since very few on this board know anything about my educational background or what I have done or not done up to this point in my life. Let's not confuse criticism or the questioning of certain fields of study with anti-intellectualism.
Nicole, I for one would not consider your field of study impractical. Especially since you seem to have your future mapped out and are willing to contribute to the environment and the economy in a positive way.
Since I hold degrees in the "conventional sciences", maybe I'm a little biased toward them. Maybe I'm just a traditional kind of person.
I thank Mr. Wilm for taking the time to explain his position and the opportunities that he feels exist for graduates in his field of study.
Ademas de no hacer nada/Besides doing nothing what else you do
Many years ago, “Charrasca”, a street guerrilla comandante famous in Leon told a guy who called himself a "revolutionary intellectual" to explain him what he did for a living. He talk by almost 15 minutes of all his accomplishments, including that he has a PHD, he was writing a book about Nicaragua and he did interviews to Fidel, Che and many other revolutionaries. Charrasca told to the guy who called himself “revolutionary intellectual: "Todo eso esta muy bonito, pero ademas de no hacer nada que otra cosa haces en tu vida? (Everything is fine, but besides doing nothing, what else you do in your life)”. The intellectual, did not say nothing after that, just quietly left the room. After that, we always say the same to anyone that presents himself as "revolutionary intellectual", especially when they are paid to being that. Maybe this is what Nicareal was asking with “actively being productive” and was never answered.
P.S. I am not European or Gringo and I am not an intellectual nor an "intellectual revolutionary"
1. I do not get paid. I
1. I do not get paid. I actually have pay tuition fees for beign allowed to ahng out here. My parents don't pay me either (just in case that should come up next). I worked as an English teacher at UNAN-Leon for a while, and am now a substitute there. That gives me roughly 5 USD/h. Creating webpages in Norway (iI can do that from here) can give me more, but I tend to make them for groups like the union of prison-inmates or union of drugaddicts or Colombians who were adopted to Norwegians, or just the International Working Group for Indigenous Affairs. These groups don't tend to have a lot of money, and so my service is oftentimes cheap to free.
Even with your rather strange definition of doing something productive (I think the above chart should help you to realize that there is nothing much productive about real-estating or most other jobs in modern capitalism for that matetr -- not your fault btw) I hope you don't put maintaining webservers and creating webpages for various interest groups (to whom I don't belong myself most times) is not another set of "doing nothing".
Trust me, I have been working hard as hell for the last ten years. Oftentimes I couldn't feel my legs anymore after returning from a long day opf doing unpaid activities. And no, my goal is not to become a bureaucrate. My goal is to change the world, not to enlarge my own wallet.
Money isn't the world, believe it or not.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
Please do not take jobs from Nicaraguans
You say that you are earning a leaving as a substitute teacher at the UNAN-Leon. Why and how you are doing a job that Nicaraguans should be doing. If you can make a living designing websites for Norway, please do so and do not take the few jobs that are available for the locals. I will not go on the legal details but in the moral issue, how you say that you came to help, if you are taking one of the few jobs available to locals. This is hypocrisy on the worst way. You say that you came to help and the first thing you do is to take jobs from Nicaraguans. Please do something productive, volunteer to build houses for the poor, create jobs for Nicaraguans, and do not take the few one they can have.
It´s called Helping Nicaraguans, not Taking Away
You´re suggestion that someone who serves as a teacher in Nicaragua is someone who is essentially taking away food from a Nica plate is ridiculous.
I also serve as a part-time teacher in Nicaragua. My students are seeking to improve their lives through the acquisition of English. This is one of the reasons that I consider my position as meaningful. I also have the opportunity to share my culture and experiences of learning another language.
The director of the dept as well as the other Nica profs enjoy having a native speaker on staff. They look at it as an opportunity to ask questions about the language. I had asked, when I was hired, if I would be viewed in an unwelcome way, and was told, to the contrary.
It is a learning experience for me, to be able to be a contributing member of society, to work with Nicas, to help my students, etc. And a learning experience for my colleagues. We exchange information, books, techniques, etc.
I live, work and raise my family in Nicaragua, though I am not a citizen, but a resident. I pay taxes. I have just as much a right to be a contributing member of society as anyone else. To suggest that a foreigner should not work, is ridiculous.
The difference is Lisa
You appear to be listening to others as well as teaching them. Others on this thread appear to be mostly spouting their "superior knowledge" and "superior ideas and ideologies" that are already outdated and proven impractical and are wanting to change the world instead of appreciating its beauty. I feel Nicaragua is lucky to have folks such as yourself come and help out.
You are IMO a person that contributes positively.
Please take a look at the new tread just started by fyl "Jobs for Nicaraguans". I'm sure any of your input and your perspective would be appreciated.
Believe it or not, but those
Believe it or not, but those Nicaraguans you talk about who have the qualifications to be English teachers at UNAN-Leon unfortunately don't leave their CV there and are generally hard to find. I was gone for a while now, but before that I was called down constantly by the university because quite frankly -- they don't have enough teachers.
There are Nicaraguans teaching -- a lot at the lower levels and some who have lived in the States and other places like that also at the higher levels. But there are just not enough, generally speaking.
Sorry, but you criticisms -- first of me not doing anything, then of me doing something -- don't seem to make a whole lot of sense. The suggestion by one of the other people to have Nicaraguans do the websites for Norway (that was what was meant to say, right?) is even more ridiculous. Swedes and Danes who live in those respective countries, generally can't figure out what is required of some website or other for a Norwegian NGO. How do you expect US Americans or Nicaraguans to do so?
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org
I Want a Nicaraguan to design my besite.
That's is many out there, smart young kids, that know what it should look like. Please contact me at 3green@usa.net. Roger.
Roger, I agree with your assessment
There are many smart young Nicaraguans out there and they need an opportunity to gain experience and to showcase their knowledge.
My assistant is a young lawyer. She went to Managua today to be sworn in by the supreme court. I am proud of her, not only because she is dedicated to the job but also because she takes direction and is eager to learn. My office provides a good number of Nicaraguans with jobs on a contract basis besides my office staff.
If you realize it or not Mr. Wilm, "Real estating" as you put it is a productive profession. It provides jobs. . That's more than can be said for your "profession". I really don't want to get into a discussion about which chosen field of "work" is more beneficial to the Nicaraguan society.
Unlike you my goal is not to change the world. I just wish to live within it in peace.
time01
Thank goodness you are not an "intellectual revolutionary"!
I believe we have enough of them........
And thank you for your story and for rephrasing my question. You are correct, it was never answered.
A revolutionary intellectual ...
.. is someone who aspires to be a bureaucrat. For example, someone who aspires to make a living by being an intermediary between Euro and Nicaraguan socialist parties. Bureaucracy is by definition a non/productive activity and it is usually anti/productive.
In North America no young person with intelligence, drive and purpose would aspire to be a bureaucrat. Europe is different because of its strong statist legacy. In Europe, a bureaucrat is a ruler. That is why a European bureaucrat turns pale and chokes when someone calls him a 'public servant'.
from what I have seen...
so far, it is the same as the US, the political parties are formed to keep people in conflict with each other. This way they don't notice that the rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer. Nothing much really changes from regime to regime, a little different, but no real change.
Is the US behind some of the trouble, could be, that's what they do , but the US is being set up as the fall guy by the people behind the people behind the scene.
Peek behind the curtain, the same folks are pulling the strings the world over. And they like chaos.
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-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
I'm with Doug on this one
I read an article in either LP or END yesterday blaming the US/CIA for inciting the violence, but IMHO, it seemed like just a way for Ortega/FSLN to point fingers elsewhere and attempt to unite everyone against a common enemy. I think Doug's absolutely right about parties being formed or operated in such a way to keep people's eyes off of what's going on behind the curtain, so to speak. The Republicans are famous for it - there's books written about it. If you're interested in the topic, check out "What's the Matter with Kansas" some day. Classic examples of distraction!
Anyway, I know as well as anyone the damage the CIA has done around the world, especially in Latin America, so I'm not in any way defending the States here. I just don't think they're involved this time, or at least not much - they just make a convenient boogeyman. Instead, I'm frustrated with the States from a different angle, namely ignorance and isolationism. Look, we have a president still in power who prides himself on not reading newspapers, and we have a country made up of people who barely know that a whole world exists outside the US borders. I've been disappointed by how little US news coverage there has been of these events, and the poor quality of the coverage that does exist. It's little wonder that many people in the States still think the war of the 70s/80s is still going on here - Nicaragua is almost totally off the US radar.
New York Times, the flagship newspaper of the States, has a whopping 2 articles on the elections in the last week (http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch?query=nicaragua+elections&mor...). The Washington Post is better with 7, several of which are cut and pasted from the AP (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/NewsSearch?st=nicaragua&fn=&sfn...). Even the AP, which is supposed to cover world news, has all of 3 articles on the elections (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/external/search.hosted.ap.org/wireCoreTool/...), one with the infuriating title of "Nicaraguans resort to sticks, stones after vote". Who do they think Nicaraguans are, children? Or, worse, Neanderthals?
Anyway, I may be wrong, but my impression thus far is that most of the US, including the government, frankly doesn't know or care about what's going on down here.
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"Life is what happens while we're busy making other plans." - Pablo Neruda
well, the US people didn't
well, the US people didn't know much about Nicaragua in the 1950-1970s, when the country was one of its closest allies and Somoza basically was financed by the US. Also, why does Montealegre hang out at the US embassy, why do Time Magazine and the Economist write such heavily one-sided and uninformed articles, and why has the US been financing all this opposition-NGO-stuff lately (the later point was made by the Die Linke office in Berlin, who researched the funding sources of these. When I confronted some of my Nicaraguan friends working in these opposition-NGOs, they said "everybody has to get their money from somewhere").
My position may be hard to understand. I guess researching/writing about Nicaraguan politics, I constantly have to give everybody another chance, including those groups I don't particularly like to start with.
And so in the FSLN, I can definitely see their inner-democratic problems of finding a person following Daniel, and I am disappointed by their decision to form a coalition with the catholic church. Also, I can see corruption problems inside the party, to some degree.
But still, the land occupations for poor people they either organize themselves or in cooperation with the PRN (because they can argue that they legally have the right to land), the programs of "no hunger" and micro-credits, and the prohibition of costs in the medical and schooling sector are things that are new and show a direct break with 16 years of liberal/right-wing rule. I still haven't found anyone who could contradict that -- and I tried getting a lot of liberals/MRS-people attack Ortega on that with arguments.
-- Johannes Wilm http://www.johanneswilm.org