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Sanitation in NicaraguaSubmitted by will305 on 30 July, 2008 - 16:29.
I've observed that all cleaning energy in Nicaragua is directed toward repeatedly mopping the same floor with the same dirty mop. Since Daniel Ortega took office, he has yet to define his water and sanitation policy. What gives? It's not as though there is not an urgent need for reform. Open sewage and standing water encourages the growth of malaria and dengue carrying mosquitoes and contributes to the contamination of ground water with cholera, typhoid and dysentery. Rotting garbage encourages rodents and insects that transmit a collection of viruses and diseases. A large percentage of children are sick with perpetual diarrhea. Only about 60% of Nicaraguans have access to piped water in their homes, albeit almost 85% of residential construction is self constructed, which may explain why only about 25% have toilets in their house. Many Nicaraguans burn garbage, bury garbage, etc. Many Nicaraguans (about 60% of the poor) live in rural areas, defecating in open areas, releasing phosphates from washing clothes into public water sources, burning the land, dumping and burning garbage, etc. This poses serious health threats and accounts for many deaths and much disease. Most of these issues are directly related to substandard housing and lack of zoning regulations and infrastructure deficiencies. This can be corrected by charging property taxes and implementing corrective action plans. And foreigners should pay a higher percentage, if you ask me. When is the Nicaraguan government going to wake up? Maybe the potential governmental "rivals" that live outside the US should come back and put their money where there mouth is. ( categories: )
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Tell me about Jinotega
Can anyone tell me about the area of Jinotega. I am planning a visit next May and am curious about this area. Someone said it is cooler and *crime* safer than other areas. Any experiences out there? :o)
muchas gracias PollyAnna
The Masaya Dump
http://peterchristopher.com/oct-1-water.html
The Masaya Dump certainly was a problem but i believe
it is much improved.
In order to facilitate the flow of the discussion I have taken the liberty of posting a copy of Peter's comment here.
His comment can be read below my answer.
Nicaragua is famous for having virtually uncontrolled garbage dumps. Thank goodness this situation is slowly changing. Unscrupulous politicians and indiscriminate dumping of garbage has certainly taken its toll on the environment of Nicaragua.
At the same token, Nicaragua is hardly alone with this problem. When I read Peter's comment that Costa Rica is far advanced in sanitation and water quality I decided to see what I can find out and try to verify or disprove his statement.
Here is an article I found on the internet: http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0417/p13s02-sten.html
I am quoting here from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managua
Urban planning
The German government is currently funding the construction of a water treatment plant with plans to process the city's sewage and clean the Managua lake. When finished, it will be the largest water treatment plant in Central America.[7] Also pending is a mega-project to reconstruct the old center of Managua, and to introduce a monorail system, to alleviate future transportation problems in Managua.[50] Both of these projects will revitalize the old center of Managua and boost tourism, commerce, infrastructure and economic development.
To be fair to Peter, I have not spent a lot of time on researching this subject and a lot of the articles need to be paid for in order to view them.
In my opinion, in this respect, there are precious few differences between the two countries.
The hygienic habits of Ticas and Nicas are just too similar. Their culture and history are intertwined. The Americanization of Costa Rica has done little to change that.
FYL mentioned an article. I searched for it but simply ran out of time.
Based on the little info I dug up I just can't see any systemic attempt to misinform the readers on this subject.
Maybe Peter can provide some more documentation on the subject of water quality and sanitation differences between the two countries.
Peter's post below
This thread reminds me of the Masaya Dump. I interviewed an NGO worker in Masaya who was working with the dump and the city composting program (in other words he Was the city composting program). This was about four years ago. He took me on a tour of the dump. The entire entrance road into the dump was piled up with garbage. What had happened? A prominent local politician had borrowed the bulldozer, and rented it out to put some extra cash in his own pocket (nothing unusual). Hence, the garbage trucks just had to dump their refuse further and further away from the actual landfill. Dengue rates got higher and higher. Bummer for those poor souls who lived near the dump and market.
Fyl's comment ("Marketing:. That's the difference between Nicaragua and Costa Rica...") is a typical example of the systematic misinformation that he posts on the nicaliving.com website that he owns (and that he posts on other websites). A basic library-literate junior high school student can check a variety of online sources and quickly recognize that Costa Rica has better drinking water quality, fecal treatment, and waste (garbage) management. Any person who has visited the two countries can see the same thing with his own eyes. If he chooses to drink the water in both countries, he quickly learns that the Costa Rican water doesn't give him quite the same "cleansing." (You rarely get the runs or dysentery drinking Costa Rican tap water, spring water, or even mountain stream water, but you often do in Nicaragua from any of those sources.)
Of course, this doesn't mean that Nicaragua is a worse place to live. There are some charms about living in Nicaragua. But the Nicaraguan experience will be more fully appreciated by arrivals having expectations properly in line with reality.
Peter Christopher
background research
Hi Jon,
The user mjt had provided the following two links on the original page that are quite useful.
http://www.wssinfo.org/pdf/country/CRI_san.pdf http://www.wssinfo.org/pdf/country/NIC_san.pdf
You could also check out these Wikipedia pages and the links they reference for more recent data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Costa_Rica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Nicaragua
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Since you also asked me about Fyl's systematic misinformation (sorry if I was unclear - I mean misinformation on a broad variety of topics, not just this topic), another example follows that I have copied from http://phil-hughes.com :
"violent crime rates here [Nicaragua] are lower than the US" -Phil Hughes http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000218
And yet, according to 2007-2008 data:
United States: 5.6 reported homicides per 100,000 annually
Nicaragua: 12.8 reported homicides per 100,000 annually
Costa Rica: 6.2 reported homicides per 100,000 annually
http://hdrstats.undp.org/indicators/263.html
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I'm glad to hear the the Masaya dump is doing better. Speaking of sewage treatment plants, in the same time-frame (about three years ago) the Masaya sewage plant had not had any proper maintenance in so many years that it was operating at a fraction of its capacity; effectively the sewage from Masaya was therefore mostly untreated when it entered Laguna de Masaya. Does anyone know whether there has been any progress on that?
Peter Christopher
Marketing
That's the difference between Nicaragua and Costa Rica. There was an article pointed to from here comparing the two. The numbers were something like only 35% of Nicaraguan households were connected to a sewer but the number was only 5% in Costa Rica.
Costa Rica just puts a lot of effort into making you think things are ok/good/better there.
Comparisons
It may be that the things compared are not all that comparable. I too have seen the 35% and 5% figures, but the 35% is usually listed as what percentage of "waste water" Nicaragua treats, whereas the 5% is stated as the portion of "sewage waste" Costa Rica treats. The reader is left wondering if the exact same wastes are really being compared. Costa Rica made great strides in the last decade, especially the last few years via via monies from JBIC (Japanese Bank for International Development. Rural Costa Rica has especially good rural numbers, with 97% of people having some form of service or system - though mostly septic tank models, and it isn't clear if that counts as "treatment" under some statistical gathering. The largest projects are tracked and often funded by WHO/UNICEF and related agencies, and they have up-to-date reports (see below, though these are just two reports and there is more recent, less specific water-related information). The difference between Nicaragua and Costa Rica isn't simply one of sometimes questionable public relations or advertising - though Costa Rica does a lot of this, and has for 20+ years.
http://www.wssinfo.org/pdf/country/CRI_san.pdf
http://www.wssinfo.org/pdf/country/NIC_san.pdf
The main difference is geographical
The main difference between C.R. and Nicaragua is that Costa Rica was first settled in the cooler or temperate central plateau - a place more suitable for human settlement. Almost all other tropical Latin American countries did the same. Nicaragua did not, however, it settled the lowlands and because of it continues to live in the colonial days - towns, traditions, culture, and especially politics included. The Costa Ricans ran for the hills much earlier, they knew the benefits of the cooler plateaus that gave them coffee and educated and enterprising immigrants, among other things.
Your knowledge about both
Your knowledge about both countries is encouraging to a newbie like myself. I am considering trying out one or the other, *limpia* being high on my list of priorties! Insect-bourne diseases being the second. I get the feeling from your post that you would recommend CR over Nica overall?
Inquiring Mind
If you wish to live in a US like place,
Costa Rica is for you. (But then why not live in Florida?)
If you wish to live in a country that is truly different unique, try Nicaragua.
Visit both and then decide.
I think I will end up
I think I will end up visiting both! and...I have already lived in Florida---central and south and grad h.s. in Hollywood! no me gusta, pero me gusta limpia playas y limpia comida y limpia agua! tambien, me gusta espanol y yo estudio regular pero no fluente! hehe gracias por su consejo.
paulieanna!
Don't judge any country until you have visited it
Absolutely visit both. And go in with realistic expectations. Costa Rica is not Florida, and Nicaragua is not Costa Rica.
My wife and I have spent several weeks in CR over three trips. It's nice, but never really grabbed us. Last month we went to Nic for the first time, and really felt comfortable there. Despite the weather being terrible for our visit, we liked it a lot.
CR is definitely more developed, which is both good and bad. As someone looking for a less oil-dependent society, Nic is better for me. Lower prices are another win.
For us, Nicas just seemed a bit friendlier than Ticos. In CR, we more often felt like the locals were looking for ways to extract money from us. Rarely so in Nic. CR really wants to be more like the US, in both good ways and bad. Nic isn't quite there yet.
We were pleasantly surprised that Nic was cleaner than we expected. I won't claim that it's cleaner than CR, but I don't think it appears dirtier. Many CR rivers are a sad sight, unfortunately. We didn't get sick in either country, despite brushing our teeth with local water, and regularly consuming lettuce, tomatoes, and ice cubes.
Another surprise was that the poverty in Nic didn't feel oppressive. Sure, many Nicas are very poor. But at least in the rural areas (where we spent most of our time), they seemed to have the basics (food, shelter), as well as strong social lives.
We got stopped by routine traffic stops in both countries. In CR, the police were a bit intimidating. In Nic, they seemed much more laid back. Everything in Nic just seemed a bit more relaxed...a bit less hectic.
So Nicaragua is definitely not for everyone, but if you are open to a more rustic lifestyle, it might just be the place for you. It's now at the top of our list if we do end up relocating.