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Want seeds from the US?Submitted by LillyC on 23 June, 2008 - 15:16.
I'll be leaving for Granada in less than a week, to volunteer at La Esperanza, for starters. I'm planning on bringing packets of seeds as gifts for them and the students. I would also be happy to pick up seeds for those of you who are gardening in Nicaragua if you let me know what you would like. At this point in the season, seeds are on sale so they will be a bargain, by US standards. Any info you gardeners have on gardening in Nica would be welcome, too. I won't have a garden spot when I get there, and I will miss that activity, so garden tours would be welcome, too.
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Seed alternative
Leslie and I tried an experiment this year in our garden (here in the USA). During the spring we did our usual seed hunting, looking for the cheapest seed packets we could find. We purchased the usual packet from well known seed companies to ensure germination yadda yadda yadda.
So far we have had great luck with everything and are now producing enough to start giving it out to neighbors and co-workers.
But last weekend Leslie had an idea. Seeing that we were paying anywhere from .79 to 1.25 per seed packet (200 to 800 mg) she wondered if the seeds you buy in the Hispanic food section would grow. These packet range from 10 Grams to 56 grams and cost on average .99) These seed packets are for cooking and I thought they would not germinate due to age or the fact that they have to dry them to a certain moisture point.
Leslie planted Cilantro and Calabaza Natural (Pumpkin) on Saturday and today (Wednesday) they have both broke ground.
We are going to experiment with other seeds to see if we get the same result. Being that these seed packets (for cooking) are 5 to 10 times bigger and up to half the price seems to be a good alternative.
Update
Well what we got was not what we thought. The experimental garden has showed us that the Calabaza Natural (Pumpkin) seeds we purchased are actually watermelon. I know that watermelon seeds are normally black but in this case they were white. Well they are the size of basketballs now and doing well.
Things to ponder
Gardening at CoolTop
In part of the plan we submitted to MARENA for the "Geek Ranch" we talk about "experimental gardens". We want to try some things that are both different and higher value per manzana that rice, beans, cabbage, ... If they work, we want to encourage local organic farmers to pick up on them.
On my list is stevia, assorted random herbs, broccoli (which is grown), and lot of other things. We also are considering a mushroom growing facility.
Stevia
Stevia was on the news (nightline) a few weeks ago here in the USA. One other use for the plant is dried leaves. If you smoke the dried leaves it gives you a very short (20 to 30 second) high and is illegal in some states to grow. The video they showed was most disturbing but then again that is our media for you. They also interviewed a “botanical engineer” as well as being a physiologist who treats people for depression who is in the process of legalizing the plant for medicinal purposes. He sales the dried leaves for $90.00 per gram by mail order.
Unfortunately they only briefly touched on the fact that as a plant it is one of the best sources of natural sweeteners around. Maybe this is why it is illegal in most states – well that was the direction the media was going with it.
interesting..
I have heard it is used to stop smoking;
http://www.local802afm.org/publication_entry.cfm?xEntry=59283768
"Stevia is best known as a calorie-free sweetener. But studies in Germany have confirmed that stevia helps cure smoking - and alcohol - addiction"
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
stevia???
Or salvia, a hallucinogenic member of the sage genus and mint family
Stevia is a relatively safe sweetener that really only presents a problem to the aspartame ( a relatively toxic sweetener) industry, which is blocking FDA approval.
it is Salvia
Should be a lesson in there about getting it straight before heading off on a rant (or near rant) about something. Waste of energy and very confusing to many.
ATZ
Big business will fix that
Big business already sells it
But they pay even less taxes than the other guys you are talking about.ATZ
Stevia
This is the first I've heard that stevia possession is illegal anywhere. See: http://www.stevia.net/ I have ordered stevia plants, dried herb and refined powder from him. (His wife may be Nicaraguan, too, I forget.)This is from his front page: ------------------------------------------------- 'If you've ever tasted stevia, you know it's extremely sweet. In fact, this remarkable noncaloric herb, native to Paraguay, has been used as a sweetener and flavor enhancer for centuries. But this innocuous-looking plant has also been a focal point of intrigue in the United States in recent years because of actions by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The subject of searches and seizures, trade complaints and embargoes on importation, stevia has been handled at times by the FDA as if it were an illegal drug.
Since the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA), stevia can be sold legally in the United States, but only as a "dietary supplement." Even so, it can be found in many forms in most health-food stores, and is also incorporated into drinks, teas and other items (all labeled as "dietary supplements"). It cannot, however, be called a "sweetener" or even referred to as "sweet." To do so would render the product "adulterated," according to the FDA, and make it again subject to seizure.
The purpose of our Web site is to provide as much information about stevia as possible, from the scientific studies regarding its safety to the petitions submitted by the Lipton Tea Company and the American Herbal Products Association.' http://www.stevia.net/ --------------------------------------------------------
This expains why your program did not mention much about how sweet it is. The big artificial sweetener companies got together some time ago and declared war on stevia in the US. They got the government to raid health food stores and the FDA to declare it hadn't been proven "safe" as a food ADDITIVE. In Europe and Asia companies like Coca Cola use it to sweeten soft drinks routinely.
I've grown it myself and know of an online seller of plants. I have also tried to germinate seeds and failed. They have to be germinated shortly after they mature, so don't store well. I may not have planted mine soon enough. Johnny's of Maine had them, may still have them.
The plant is native to South America and has been used there for millenia so it should do well in CA. I had to grow it in pots and bring it in in winter, but it is other wise very easy to grow as long as it is well drained.
I suppose one could get a 30-second "high" from smoking just about anything. This sounds like an underhanded, backdoor way of getting stevia out of the hands of Americans.
Video
Go to YouTube, type in Stevia and watch the 15 seconds of fame/shame that young peple post of their "High" after smoking the leaves.
My post about it being illigal referrs to the sweetner side of it.
The plants, seeds, its use
The plants, seeds, its use as a dietary supplement, and its use as a food sweetener (sugar substitute) would appear to each fall under different guidelines. Possession of it might depends on what "it" is, but the plant/seeds, and even the health-food products are widely available in reputable stores and outlets; you can buy both on ebay and Amazon and countless other walk-in stores. Some related sites of interest: http://www.stevia-plant.com/ & http://www.cookingwithstevia.com/