Democracy: U.S. and Nicaragua

Submitted by fyl on 20 June, 2008 - 13:48.

With what is going on right now with regard to "democracy" in the U.S. and Nicaragua, it seems like a convenient time for a comparison. Note that I am not happy with what I see in either country right now but I do think the comparison will help put some things into perspective.

First, in the U.S., the idea of impeachment of Bush is getting lip service.The bill was introduced last week. Of course, the Democratic leadership sided with the Republican leadership suggesting there are more important things to deal with.

Here we have a lot of people pissed off at Ortega (from all over the political and socio-economic spectrum) but there isn't the equivalent of the 35 articles of impeachment against him here.

The current big fight here is the fact that the government (through the Electoral Tribunal) is eliminating political parties. The PC and MRS were the recent victims. While the PC vote-getting ability seems pretty small, the MRS is growing because of the number of non-Danielista, Sandinistas.

So, if there is a "success" in the elimination of all the other parties, Nicaragua will be left with two: FSLN and PLC.

Now, back to that other country, there really are only two parties. With no proportional representation, minor parties don't matter anyway. Now, is El Pacto really that different from what you see with Democrats accepting Republican lies about, for example, Iraq, and then not wanting to go for impeachment? I think not.

Now, some people have suggested that Ortega had Herty Lewites killed. Personally I have no idea but there certainly is a lot more evidence that suggests George Bush put a contract out on H. Ross Perot but the guy hired for the job ended up having a conscience and didn't do it.

So, again, I am not saying either government is a good thing right now. Just trying to help the Gringos understand that corruption is not unique to Nicaragua.

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Conspiracy theorist?

Submitted by 1st Capt. Ron on 20 June, 2008 - 14:40.

FYL,

I know you and I don't view the world in the same light, but some of the examples you put forward here really seem on the extreme far left fringe of politics. If you believe Bush put a contract out for Ross Perot, do you also believe Clinton had Vince Foster killed? Am I just confussed?

Please do not think of this an an attack on your or your values. I am just surprised I heard this from you. I know we have never met, but over time, I have developed an impression of you, and I guess I was surprised.

1st Capt. Ron (Title by Miskito Alan)

Institutionality Is The Big Difference

Submitted by bluewater on 20 June, 2008 - 14:28.

The difference is that there is institutionality and a system of integrated checks and balances on governmental and judicial power in the United States. The decision by the CSE in the MRS and PC case was ordered and preordained by political appointees for a limited term,just as the decision by the Managua appeals court also populated by political appointees for a limited term was ordered and preordained. As the decision by the Nicaraguan Supreme Court to decapitate the dissident parties will be executed by political appointees for a limited term. There is no check on governmental power with a politically appointed and party controlled judicial branch.