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Anatomy of a TheftSubmitted by fyl on 13 June, 2008 - 08:17.
Yesterday, as I was walking to the post office, I almost witnessed a theft. It got me thinking. As I was walking north on the west side of the street, I heard someone running fast, and someone yelling. I looked across the street to see a kid, maybe eight years old, running south on the other side. I looked in the direction he was running from and saw a guy in front of a small tienda who was holding another kid about the same age by the t-shirt and yelling at the running kid. Looking a bit more at the situation, I saw that the kid who was running had a CD or DVD package in his hand. The man was in front of a store that sells CDs and DVDs. My assumption was that the two kids were doing a "distract and steal" trip on the store. Now, if I had been on the other side of the street, I probably would have grabbed the kid that was running. But, he was clearly out of my reach. Well, as I walked along I thought a bit more about the situation. Between my house and the post office there are maybe half a dozen places to buy CDs and DVDs. Some are in storefronts and some are just on the sidewalk. But, all of them sell pirated copies of CDs and DVDs. So, the kid running down the street had an illegal copy of something in his hand. This made me think about the morality of the situation. The "businessman" was upset because someone had stolen from him, something he stole from someone else.
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the circle within a circle...
the store owner has a store on land that was stolen from somebody at some point in time ( bag of beads for Manhattan Island type of stuff).
The machine that made the copy was made in a factory that employs people at a wage that allows for a profit to be made by the factory owner, shipping agent, owner of the shipping company, owner of the company that made the conveyance that it was shipped on, the wholesaler, retailer, their employees and who ever else in in the product stream.
I bet the workers that actually made it get the smallest percentage of it's final cost...
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
i buy lots
of dvds ..ones that are new releases , dusters and odd movies i never heard of.
remember who sold them to you so you can return the ones that are just blanks
good profit in selling blanks
www.nicalandsales.com
Whose property is it anyway?
Doug, reading your post caused the following to precipitate from my mind:
The immediate victim there probably paid the 'pirate' for the CD. The pirate (maybe self-same 'businessman') burns copies illegally cause he's clever enough (& the record & movie companies are so technologically inept) to do so, invests in it, takes the loses for what he can't sell, and makes money doing so to help his family in the second poorest country in the hemisphere. It's a 'white-collar crime' or, if you will, non-voluntary charity by those who send 'their property' far from themselves, to foreign lands. Is it illegal in Nicaragua, but just not enforced? There are more guys & gals selling CDs & DVDs downtown than those selling clothes pirated from zona-libre sweatshops. Who in Nicaragua would gain by enforcing a law against pirating? Nicaragua has no stake. The victim had a stake.
The Amerindians that sold that island, the one where the Trade Towers later stood (briefly), probably thought the Dutch were stupid. There was little game left to hunt on it and paddling their canoes across the Hudson was a major hassle and, besides, as they thought, no man can own 'nature'. Those beads were rare there. My point: it was a trade, a deal, both parties agreed.
What is it about private property? Can't we all just share, treat it (all that is: natural resources, ideas, spit) as a common right of man? . . . .
In 2004, the Chinese Communist Party amended their Constitution so that “the state protects the rights of citizens to private property and their inheritance.” After Mao died, of course. (Coincidently, in 2004, Marx & Engels rolled over simultaneously in their separate graves.)
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We were robbed in Esteli last year. For more than four years I’ve traveled all over Central America & Mexico and was never robbed. Perhaps I should relate the story?
you got me intrigued
tell us about the robbery. I was also wondering about your thinking, with respect/perception to the four years you had travelled in that part of the world.
A couple of robbery stories of a different genre
Over the past 3 years I've spent 18 months in Managua, Grenada, SJDS, and places inbetween. Heard lots of horror stories - usually by someone who heard from someone who said he knew someone who had heard...type of stories. This past January I returned to my hotel in Managua and there's a couple of mid thirties guys speaking in English in the courtyard. Introduced myself, and we blew away the afternoon and evening drinking Tonas. One was a Los Angeleno, a professional freelance fotographer. The other, a fellow Canuck. They were single, hot to trot and were going clubbing that nite. I passed, the beer suggesting sleep more than hot trotting. Told the boys where not to go - the danger areas. The following noon, they're sitting at the same patio table, commiserating over a robbery. The fotographer decided to go out early that morning to shoot stuff he might be able to sell. In one of the toughest barrios in the city. Mucho peligroso! Cabbies don't even want to go there at night.(Picture him if you will: dressed akin to what you might see in Eygpt at the pyramids, in khaki shorts, cameras and lenss drapped around his kneck, a massive camera bag hanging off one shoulder. He shot several rolls, and was returning to his hotel on foot.. Altho he went where I advised him not to go, he at least followed one bit of advice: walk in the middle of the street so u can see on both sides around you. In his case, that advice was useless. Two guys with matchetys rushed him, and he was relieved of a mass of cameras, lenses. Plus (he said) about $5000. That's right, $5000. The bandidos were never caught.
About three weeks later I had to go to the computor shop. Small problem with my laptop. Very very safe calle. Lot of stores. Lots of shoppers. Good computor place in a good location. I walk in to find a cocked revolver aimed at my head. On the floor to my left are two men sprawled out, arms outstretched, on their bellies. I didn't get down fast enough so the guy who greeted me at the door shoved the pistol into the nape of my neck, hard. Never argue with a gun, is my mantra. (He got behind me to frisk my pockets.)Ahead of me are several employees also on their bellies, arms outstreched, two other hombres hovering over them with cocked revolvers. A fourth was rummaging through drawers, looking for cash. It was a well planned robbery. At the right moment, a car pulled up, and the four took with them all the portables, about a dozen, mine included, plus about $1000 which I was going to wire to my daughter. It took the Managua police almost 45 minutes to arrive on the scene! As of my departure 3 months later, the investigation was still on going. Is Nicaragua safe? U betcha.I could just as easily have been in the wrong place at the wrong time in Toronto. Am returning to Nicaland again this autumn for another 6 months. But this time, I'll try and avoid being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I know it puts a...
black eye of sorts for Nicaragua when folks relate experiences of being robbed, but I think it is important to use them as reminders to keep ones guard up. So please share your tale with us.
The story of the disk thief started me thinking about what motivates a person to steal. And at what point making a profit on a business deal turns into exploitation. I saw some photos of the $100,000,000 USD plus new home Will Smith was having built and wondered how much he personally cared if some little shop in Nicaragua sold a couple of bootlegged copies of Wild Wild West. And your point about what motivation does Nicaragua have in enforcing intellectual property rights laws. I wonder if the folks who profited most would care so much if they had to foot the bill for enforcement of their rights. If someone took some of my photos from this site and sold them as their own would the FBI chase them down ? I have as much right as Will Smith to profit from my work if I choose... so do these laws only exist to help the rich get richer ?
Then I remembered reading;
"When former Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) administrator L. Paul Bremer III left Baghdad after the so-called "transfer of sovereignty" in June 2004, he left behind the 100 orders he enacted as chief of the occupation authority in Iraq. Among them is Order 81 on "Patent, Industrial Design, Undisclosed Information, Integrated Circuits and Plant Variety."..."For generations, small farmers in Iraq operated in an essentially unregulated, informal seed supply system. Farm-saved seed and the free innovation with and exchange of planting materials among farming communities has long been the basis of agricultural practice. This has been made illegal under the new law. The seeds farmers are now allowed to plant--"protected" crop varieties brought into Iraq by transnational corporations in the name of agricultural reconstruction--will be the property of the corporations."
- Iraq's new patent law: a declaration of war against farmers.(Biodevastation) Synthesis/Regeneration - March 22, 2005
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
The intractable gunk at the bottom of a stolen flask
Being robbed in Esteli didn't tarnish Nicaragua's safe reputation, as far as I'm concerned. It was the opposite, the place lulled us into complacency, or as you say Doug, we dropped our guard. As soon as I find my notes I'll tell.
What motivates a child to steal? Moral ambiguity? Societal anarchy? Or the challenge, without fear of punishment? In Saudi Arabia children (under 18) are tried as adults for their crimes. A guilty sentence can result in flogging, amputation, or death. For theft the hand is chopped off - a very powerful deterrent. Muslim law, the sharia, is concerned with "the poor souls who are mugged and robbed and hurt by the thieves. " Three children were executed to death in 2007, 12 in recent years. (July 08 Atlantic).
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Doug, what you've quoted about Bremer is from the Organic Consumers Association of Minnesota. It appears to be a totally radical ad-lib. That information is better used to fertilize organic crops, in other words.
When I read the Coalition Provisional Authority Order 81, in full at http://www.trade.gov/static/iraq_memo81.pdf, it simple spells out patent laws and laws for registering a new breed of plant, and certainly doesn't restrict farmers from doing what they have done. Though for a newly registered plant variety, this law protects it and authorization from the breeder is necessary to use it. Standard legal stuff.
I can't believe I wasted an hour looking into these allegations.
Well said
and the band plays on. Just wait until you have to rent/pay for your own genes or stem cell, dna, property rights to the corporations that have identified and own the rights to them.
I think I'll..
try to patent myself... first
or if I am copyrighted they would have to pay me to copy me for anything but personal use...
some day that kid could be stealing a copy of me...
Yikes...
after the ladrón,
call the police!!!
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the problem, you're not trying hard enough
That kid running away could be your clone, mini-Doug
No existing life form, nor those from selective breeding, can be patented. Totally new, unnatural, made-by-gene-splicing life can be patented.