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Interpol, FARC Laptops and MoreSubmitted by fyl on 22 May, 2008 - 07:32.
The Real News Network offers up a report on what Interpol really said about the FARC laptops and then goes on to analyze the whole FARC/Colombia/Venezuela/Latin America situation.
There are some serious omissions in the press about what Interpol said that should be covered. Also, at about 5:20 into the video, it is pointed out that while Colombia claims to have recovered the FARC laptops and USB memory sticks after smart bombing the FARC camp, they seem to have lost the laptops of the paramilitaries they had in custody for extradition to the U.S. But, beyond that, there is the whole spin on what is going on in the region—which, of course, Nicaragua gets drawn into. ( categories: )
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Interpol, FARC Laptops and More
I learned in school than whenever you read or listen to something you have to understand where the author is coming from. For example if I read something written by Fidel Castro I can usually tell where he is coming from. Once you understand his bias then you can check out the facts to discover the truth.
Regarding the video and “The Real News Network” all you have to do is check out their web site to understand where they are coming from. Here are some of the topics, “US Media Spins Sadar City “Success”, “Holy Warriors in the US Armed Forces”, “Race and Poverty in the US”, etc. They have a decidedly anti-US bias. So do I believe what the 2 talking heads are saying in The Real News Network video? No. According to Interpol the recovered laptops contained 39.5 million pages of information. They said it would take 1 person 1,000 years reading 100 pages a day to read all of the information. The Real News Network says how can you draw conclusions from having access to the information for only 48 hours? You do it like I did in school. You don’t have to read every page in a book to understand what it is about. You skim, sample and spot read. So is it possible to glean important information by reading portions of this mountain of data? Yes of course. Do you have to read all 39.5 million pages to understand? No. They also go on the make other accusations about the laptops and Columbia’s position on the FARC terrorists that don’t “square up”.
The Real News Network should rename themselves to “The Real News Network According to Our Biased Views.” Do I believe Chavez is not involved in supporting the FARC terrorists? No. Do I believe Chavez is not a dictator and trying to subvert democracy in Latin America? No. The Real News Network says there is a “relentless, concerted campaign against Hugo Chavez.” Do I believe this statement? Yes I do. This is one thing they got right. The question is should there be? I think the answere is yes there should be. He is a dangerous man and heading his country down the wrong path. He will land in the heap of other dangerous South American dictators throughout history.
Regarding Nicaragua I believe Daniel Ortega should be careful with who he aligns himself with. Friends like Hugo Chavez and Ah-mah-nut-job (as Jay Leno calls him) from Iran will only bring Nicaragua trouble. During Ortega’s last time as president his government provided passports to some of the terrorists involved in the World Trade Center bombing during the 90’s. It seems like Ortega doesn’t learn from his mistakes. If he allows Iran to build a port at Monkey Point in Nicaragua he is opening the door for terrorists once again to strike from Nicaragua. I hope Ortega and the Nicaraguan people will be prepared for the consequences.
Popular opinion
What you say is likely a popular opinion of those that depend on "corporate news sources". Some try to call their favorite news source unbiased much like if you worked for Chevrolet you are more likely to think they produce the best cars.
Personally, I find what The Real News Network presents as a lot of information to help me decide. For example, they pointed out that the "spin" about Interpol's conclusion that the laptops were not tampered with was just that—spin because Interpol did not examine the actual data but the implication in the media was that Interpol had concluded something about the content.
Twenty years ago you really did not have much choice of information sources. What was best for U.S. corporate media, Fidel Castro and all so many others with their own agenda was all you could easily find. Today, if you want to, you can generally find the subtext of the popular "sound bites", fill in the blanks and then come up with a much better informed personal opinion.
Just to toss out another source that is clearly not mainstream but may match better with your political stripes, try madcowprod.com. This is the effort of mostly one investigative reporter that certainly raises issues that are almost totally missing from the corporate media. Agree or disagree with his conclusions, he still is raising some issues that need to be raised.
Popular Opinion
The point of my comments was that you have to understand where someone is coming from when you read what they put out. I didn’t say to just toss out The Real News Network. I checked out their web site and have a pretty good picture of what their bias is. Understanding their bias do I believe what they say? Not without a lot of checking.
After years of reading what the old Soviet propaganda “news” machine put out about the US I pretty much knew where they were coming from. They would take a shooting in Watts in Los Angeles and write a story that you couldn’t go out on the streets of the US at night without getting shot. Of course this was hog wash. I knew from experience the things they were saying were not true because I lived in the US.
Bottom line is everyone has a bias and believes what they are doing is right. This includes the so called news media’s. Be it Bush, Uribe, FARC, Hezbolla, PLO, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Chavez, Ortega, Correa, Ahmadinejad, Olmert (Israel) they all believe their view of the world is right. Do I believe Uribe over the FARC and Chavez? Yes. In the long run whose view of the world do I want to win out? Is it Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Al Qadea, FARC, PLO or the Taliban? I don’t think so.
PS: Read these articles on Ortega’s FARC involvement and let me know what you believe. Then I'll know your bias.
Nicatimes.net http://www.nicatimes.net/nicaarchive/2008_05/052308.htm and World War 4 Report.com http://ww4report.com/node/5542
Agreed
I believe I know where TRNN is coming from the same as I know where People's Daily World, La Prensa, ... are coming from. What is generally ignored (at least in the U.S.) is where CNN, FOX ... are coming from. All too many people don't see "pro-corporate interest" or even "pro-U.S." as a bias. But, just like the others, it is.
Most countries have a pro-government press. (Actually, at the present time, Nicaragua doesn't and that in itself is fairly interesting.) As Colombia is pretty much a U.S. client state (amazing amounts of money come to the U.S. to support Colombia's military), there is no reason to think the U.S. press will be objective about Colombia.
So, to get back to the original issue, where do we go for information about Colombia? You have said TRNN is not a reputable source but you have neither suggested a source that might be reputable nor have you pointed out any errors of content in what TRNN reported?
RNN Is Pure Propaganda
The so called Real News Network is a propaganda machine. One small example shows the bias. The alleged academic expert, Forrest Hylton is a third rate pampleteer masquerading as an academic. He shoots his RNN standup interviews from the ROOF of an apartment building in New York and answers affirmatively to every leading question posed by his handler, Mr Escobar. Mr. Hylton is the coauthor of a diatribe against Alvaro Uribe and the Colombian government entitled THE EVIL HOUR. He is also the coauthor of REVOLUTIONARY HORIZONS, BOLIVIA PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE. He currently only contributes to anticapitalist and in many cases anti US internet publications extolling the virtues of revolutionary change. After searching I could find no evidence that he is on the faculty of any academic institution. Please give us credit for critical thought and do not try to pass off propaganda as a credible news source
propaganda..??
The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former CIA Director
Or balance?
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
CIA, TRILATERAL COMMISSION & ALL SUNDRY
It's all the work of the Bavarian Illuminati
that eyeball thingy...
on top of the pyramid on the back of the $1 USD has always creeped me out.
-Doug ©
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
pampleteer
Actually,pamphleteer, (not being picky) is a word I haven't seen in a long time. In the 17th and 18th Century, publications of "Pamphlets", distributed throughout the streets, coffee houses, etc in United Kingdom were a popular way and means to get across political,social, ideas to the general public, you can imagine what was the beginnings of truly free press, not easy to censure or catch the "Pamphleteer" even if you wanted to string him/her up for the viewpoints expressed. It was also recognised as a great way to submit propaganda and on occasion embelished with some neat artwork/cartoons. I guess the internet shows what goes around comes around, history repeating itself.
Sorry About The Spelling Error
Your comment is right on point and you are a much better editor than I am. Some of the nica political media (both sides) use the term and I popped it in without thinking. Thanks for the thoughtful historical perspective.
Thanks for the inspiration
Your mention of his books inspired me to look around a bit. The review of The Evil Hour by Monthly Review told me a lot I didn't know and inspired me to buy the book. He clearly knows a lot more about the internals of Colombia than I do.
As for "his handler", he is a journalist. As Hylton's answers seem to be very detailed, I would certainly say he is not just affirming statements by the journalist. Based on what I have read/read about him, I would say he knows a lot more about Columbia and the issues at hand than any mainstream "anchorman".
Rather than shooting the messinger, how about explaining what he missed or distorted? That would certainly be a lot more useful for me.
Your Inspiraton Is A Pipe Dream
Your source of inspiration, Monthly Review is edited by John Bellamy Foster, author of NAKED IMPERIALISM, THE US PURSUIT OF GLOBAL DOMINANCE, he also authored, IN DEFENSE OF HISTORY, MARXISM AND THE POSTMODERN AGENDA, and PAX AMERICANA, EXPOSING THE AMERICAN EMPIRE, and of course, the real page turner, MARX'S ECOLOGY, MATERIALISM AND NATURE. Can we kind of get an idea of where Monthly Review is oriented? If we were not convinced by the editors personal publications, better to use his own words to describe the doctrine of Monthly Review, " Revenues from subscriptions and donations have always fallen short of Monthly Review's resources. This is inevitable, in todays world any ANTI IMPERIALIST, SOCIALIST ENTERPRISE that finds its resources sufficent to the task must either be moribund or false." (emphasis added)
My task is not to defend the report or attack it, my task is show that your source RNN is inherently biased, thus untrustworthy. If you use it in the future, in all fairness you should note its anti US position and not accept it as gospel. Rather than being "inspired" by the same rhetoric from another biased "anti imperialist" source, use your time to reflect upon the possibility that there is indeed another side to this story. A side other than the socialist, anti imperialist view your sources espouse. As to Mr. Escobar, there is literally nothing about him on line as to his origin, studies, or publications. What are his qualifications as a journalist? He behaves more like an actor than a journalist using color words and rhetoric in his "reports".