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Lessons from a forgotten American OccupationSubmitted by webtrainer on 11 April, 2008 - 15:23.
Really interesting article about Sandino and the US Marines occupation of Nicaragua about 80 years ago. http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/7969/ ---------- Quote from the March 28, 1928 New York Times: Expect Long Stay for Marines Notwithstanding that Charles E. Hughes is quoted here as declaring at the recent Pan-American conference at Havana that the marines would be withdrawn from Nicaragua at the earliest possible time, it is improbable that any responsible person here believes that they can be withdrawn for many months, perhaps for years, to come. The Nicaraguans themselves, Conservatives and Liberals alike, declare unreservedly that anarchy would descent on the country again if the United States withdrew its forces. ---------- According to this article, what happened (besides the NYT having the same opinions then as now) was that Pres. Hoover's decision to withdraw was not made by choice. The Great Depression was forcing him to redeploy his increasingly meager budget. Sounds familiar to a current President and occupation. ( categories: )
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Teddy Roosevelt and the Monroe Doctrine
History, like all the liberal arts, depends on the "eye of the beholder", or, if you will, the pen of the chronicler (often, a storyteller). Let us step back a couple decades for additional perspective here. (It kind of ties in with parallel blogs on business here.) I quote from Wikipedia:
"Roosevelt's extension of the Monroe Doctrine asserted the right of the United States to intervene to stabilize the economic affairs of small nations in the Caribbean and Central America if they were unable to pay their international debts. The alternative was intervention by European powers, especially Britain and Germany, which loaned money to the countries that did not repay. The catalyst of the new policy was Germany's aggressiveness in the Venezuela affair of 1902-03.
Teddy Roosevelt told Congress in 1904: All that this country desires is to see the neighboring countries stable, orderly, and prosperous. Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America, as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of an international police power.
The average debt price for countries under the US "sphere of influence" rose by 74% in response to the pronouncement and actions to make it credible. That is, their bonds rose 74% because buyers now believed they would be repaid. The increase in financial stability reduced internal conflict because political factions could not count on winning control of the national treasury if they won a civil war. The program spurred export growth and better fiscal management, but debt settlements were driven primarily by gunboat diplomacy.
In its altered state, the Monroe Doctrine would now consider Latin America as an agency for expanding U.S. commercial interests in the region, along with its original stated purpose of keeping European hegemony from the hemisphere.
In essence, Roosevelt's Monroe Doctrine would be the basis for a use of economic and military hegemony to make the U.S. the dominant power in the Western Hemisphere. The new doctrine was a frank statement that the U.S. was willing to seek leverage over Latin American governments by acting as an international police power in the region. This announcement has been described as the policy of "speak softly but carry a big stick", and consequently launched a period of "big stick" diplomacy, in contrast with later Dollar Diplomacy."
P.S. The 'speak softly' quote was a West African proverb Teddy liked, and used when, as governor, he took on the NY State party boss, and won.
Common bias
Politicaly and Geographicaly incorrect
Its always amazing how radicall leftist american liberals and the "DRIVE-BY MEDIA" distorts information to their own benefits.First of all,the US invasion of nicaragua was there to create stabilitty in the country and clean up the mess between the two political parties,liberals and conservadores,and to fight the rebels in Nueva Segovia led by a bandit called Sandino ,therefor by doing that garanteed the american interes in the country.The Chamorro Brian treaty dismembered 4 islands from Nic and gave them to Colombia as part payment for the Panama Canal,These Islands were San Andres,Providence,Johnny Key and Roncador which are on the East COAST OF NICARAGUA NOT THE GOLFO DE FONSECA Corn Island and Little Corn Island are also on the east coast of Nic.
Caution - radical leftist American liberal comment
I went to the web site that the author of the article had used for reference and sent the editor the following;
"Good day, I was reading a page on your site; http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1066.html
contains the following,” the United States was granted a 99-year lease on two Nicaraguan islands (Great Corn and Little Corn islands in the Gulf of Fonseca)".
The Gulf of Fonseca is on the Pacific coast, Great Corn and Little Corn islands are on the Atlantic coast. If you could please correct this it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you"
Which will probably do more to correct an obvious error than blaming,"radicall leftist american liberals and the "DRIVE-BY MEDIA"" for this oversight in fact checking on the part of u-s-history.com.
Your statement that the US military; "was there to create stabilitty in the country and clean up the mess between the two political parties" is interesting.
I would tend to find more credibility in a statement from a US Marine Corp General and winner of two Congressional medals of Honor,
"I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brother" -an excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC
-Doug, tree hugging dirt worshiper
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
Not a conflict between Liberals and Conservatives
It was a conflict between American interests, specifically the Emery Lumber Company not abiding by the terms of their agreement with the Zelaya government and his desire to see that they did. Search "Knox Note" on the net and you'll get close. That "Bandit", like G. Washington before him merely wanted foreign troops out of his country.
Echoes from the past..
if only we could learn from history
-Doug
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate
We do learn from history.
We do learn from history. In fact, we sometimes learn so well that we can easily repeat it.