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Workers and NGOsSubmitted by fyl on 7 March, 2008 - 11:32.
Today, our "on-site manager" called to tell us that our workers just came up with some new work demands. We are already paying them more than is customary in the area and an assortment of other things. So, what's going on? One of their demands—not working on Monday—is the key. It turns out that some NGO is giving food to people in the area. They get it on Monday. Well, thinking a bit, my guess is that it is being given to "unemployed people" and the way the NGO decides if they are unemployed is that they are available on Monday to pick up the food. The expression "this sucks" comes to mind. It is a perfect example of creating a "handout mentality" which just continues to build external dependence. ( categories: )
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Work Ethic
I think it's important to keep in mind that our north American values are not the same as values in other countries, and being different does not make them wrong.
The native Hawaiians come to mind. When the Christian missionaries arrived there the people didn't work or wear clothes, didn't have the desire to "accomplish" anything particular. White men killed them off, changed them and stole their islands, language and culture. Could there be a comparison? I'm not saying that the Nica people do things "right", I'm saying that there is no one right way when it comes to "how to live on this planet".
Nicas don't have a "work ethic" as many of us have been taught to have. Perhaps we might want to reevaluate the quality of our ethics and think about which ways work best for people, rather than what works best for work, economics, business. I'm actually excited about this train of thought... What ways to live actually do work for people? It's a great question.
It's their choice
We went looking for workers. They were told what the work was. They said they wanted to do it. Then, apparently, some of them realized it would cut into their handout.
I have had two teams of workers here before. One (three people) just raised the brick wall next to my rental house. Fixed price quote, they did the work correctly and on time.
The other was a serious remodel of my current house. It included a bunch of walls around the property, changes downstairs and a complete new upstairs. The price was based on the number of square meters of each kind of work (brick wall, tile floor, ...). While there was no specific schedule, the work was done correctly and in a reasonable amount of time.
So, there are people here that actually want to earn an honest living. That is contrasted with, for example, the Telcor employees in Estelí that seem to do nothing other than stand outside the office BSing with everyone.
In this particular case, a neighbor told us he had the same problem with "locals". But, he found good workers about 5km away. The difference was that there was no handout program in the area 5km away.
There is a line between
There is a line between culture or morals and work ethic. Work ethic has little to do with what we want to impose here. One example is the guy who built my house left all the garbage from the construction all around the property, paint cans broken blocks etc. My Cuban friend cleans the house inside and out before handing the keys to the owner. That is just plain class, having pride in something you do nothing more.
The Japanese have a work ethic that put most of developed world to shame, many say over the top, company first your life second. There is little work ethic here and that goes to lack of morals, right and wrong. There is a work for "please" and "thank you" in most languages, yet it is used very little here.
You say we can not impose our values here but are they "our" values. These people want a TV, a car and other things but are more willing in finding a scam then doing the work for it, it has nothing to do with us imposing out culture on them. I think it is more about a good moral live than culture to be proud of earning something, putting something together with your own two hands than standing in the street begging for it.
Culture is things like the food we eat, if Americans were in the store demanding they carry products from the US and drop others you would be right about us trying to change the culture. There was a Simpsons episode were they went to a soccer game. The camera passes in front of the announcers booth and the announcer in English following the match is talking in a very slow boring voice "the....c-e-n-t-e-r....p-a-s-s-e-s....t-h-e....b-a-l-l... and then you see the Spanish announcer following the same game just about screaming and talking very fast like it is the most exciting point of the game.
That is culture, Americans are not into soccer and may never be, however it is a huge part of life in Latin America. Having a work ethic to support your family, not trying to scam or steal is not a strictly American culture but crosses all countries and languages. If you don't want to work don't complain you don't have a TV. Like the guy who ask for a cigarette, if you are to poor to buy a pack....don't smoke.
This is one reason why this is such a poor country, most people here are willing to sit on their butts and wait for the next check to arrive from their uncle in the states to arrive. If they get the check there is no desire to work until that money is gone.
When I was selling lots we had a least 4 or 5 people who were "helping" family from the states ask us to say the lot is more than the cost. In other words if the lot was 5000 they asked us to say it was 6000 and them give them the extra 1000. How is not ripping off you mother or sister something we as Americans are trying to impose of or change here?
Yes this is not all Nicaraguans and maybe something more in Leon than other places but is very common here. One of the reasons I move here was because I had many good Nica friends in Costa Rica, I have found the Nicas there to be a totally different class of people even though they share the same heritage. Bottom line if you don't want to put in a honest days work don't complain you live in a poor country.
This is why if I hear one
This is why if I hear one more time "we are such a poor country" I am going to barf. There is no pride or better yet no shame. I meet people here in Leon and within 2 minutes they are asking for C$500 or C$1000 because they are so poor they do not have electricity.
Of the 1000's that have asked maybe two have offered to work if I had it. Fact is 98% of the people here will find a scam, rip-off or steal and put more work into that than just working. I have two young guys from a farm a bit outside of Leon. They are the only two people I have ever had that will put in a days work and have not looked at a way to scam me. I feel I should pay them three times what I do (I pay the going rate, not less). What is weird is that I feel I should pay more just because they do their work and show up on time, nothing more special than that.
I tell everyone the story of a maid I had, I no longer have one just clean my own place because it is very hard to find some to work for "the Rich American" even when I paid more than normal. This maid worked for me for three moths, one week I gave her an extra C$50 because I did not have change. I told her next week 50 less.
Well next Monday she never shows up. Fine, steal $3 from me I don't care. I have had a lot more stolen from my house than that. However the good part of the story is 6 months later I see her in the street in Leon. She talks to me like nothing happened and then starts to tell me that she is so poor and there is no work here. Well I did not feel sorry for her and did not give her a hand out because she is so poor, she had work, easy work in a nice house no kids etc.
When the government does nothing to help the country or take responsibility (not just the present idiot by everone since 1979 when Nicaragua had a good economy) how can the people follow. When most of the Nicas that want to work are in the states or Costa Rica who is here to show them what you can get if you put in a honest days work.
Everything here is a gift from other countries, police cars and station, garbage trucks and other equipment to fix roads etc. Then even after they do not have to buy anything they use this equipment to fill in the holes in the roads with dirt. Mean while there is a party every week at the town hall and the mayor lives quite well. Where is the 15% tax on everything going?
Now with the lack of any new investment this place is circling the drain fast. Maybe a war will help get our minds off the problems!
Quick Update
Lester, the on-site manager, just talked to a nearby resident that had done some construction recently. Same answer—people in the area just don't want to work. He suggested an area nearby where we hired his workers after the locals refused to work.
The bad news is that it means having to furnish transport but having people interested in working is a plus.
I understand the
I understand the frustration. Last year, I had a profound conversation with a very high-ranking person in the Atlantic Coast/Sandanista party who said that "it will take a generation to change the mentality of the 'stretched out hand' work ethic."
Externalization of Costs
Let them have Mondays off and have them work another day such as Saturday or Sunday. Then, the NGO food donation becomes a pay suppliment (a subsidy) from an outside source that benefits your workers and yourself. Externalize costs like Wal Mart or other corporations.
Not so simple
They are asking for an additional day off not to switch days off. They know they can probably get it too, they know how hard it is to find people to work.
Imagine the problem here on the Island where the labor costs are high & the pool of workers is small. My workman is from the mainland, he is a good worker but a major headache. I had to explain to him a few weeks ago that I hired him to help me take care of problems not cause me more,I am still not sure he understood.