Thoughts on presidential election?

Submitted by cyanstorm on 12 January, 2008 - 18:00.

Hillary wouldn't get my vote, Obama is about the only democrat (besides Richardson, who is out of the race) that I'd be willing to vote for, I believe that although he is young and relatively inexperienced he would make a good, if not great, president. He had the foresight and guts to vote against the war and we'd show the world that Americans are actually willing to elect a non-white president. Republican side isn't any better; there is only ONE candidate that I wholeheartedly support and that is John Mccain; WAR HERO, a moderate in almost every aspect, a non fundamental christian, willing to cross over party ideologies to make things work. I think he'd make a great president, too bad he wasn't elected in the GOP 2000 primaries.

All in all about the only candidate that I truly respect, admire and sincerely wish the best is John Mccain.

P.S: lots of Democrats seem to agree with me too, only candidate they seem to like and respect is Mccain.

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Vote Audits

Submitted by fyl on 16 January, 2008 - 16:37.

If you have any interest in the integrity of the voting system in the US, please check out Black Box Voting They have been documenting problems with voting machines and, in general, the voting process for years. The recent New Hampshire primary was no exception.

Time for a change

Submitted by paulruff on 14 January, 2008 - 14:02.

Since 1988 there has been a Clinton or a Bushie in the WH...it is time for a change. Either Edwards or Obama would be fine for me. Hillary is just running for her husbands third term. We need new ideas not the same old same sex marriage, gays, guns, extending tax cuts, putting the the Ten Commandments in schools and teaching intelligent design alongside Darwinism. We need funding for stem cell research, solar power, and universal health care etc. All I hear from everyone, with the exception of Obama, Edwards and Huckabee (who I would not vote for) is the same old crap. Is Fred Thompson really alive?

Hillrys third term

Submitted by Jinoturistica on 16 January, 2008 - 09:59.
The driving force that got Bill to the casablanca was Hillary. He was fat and happy as governor of Arkansas with no upward ambitions until she got him moving. Matter of record, go read any history book NOT written by Bill - he doesn't see it that way. So this would be Hillary's 3rd term.

As opposed to Dick Halliburton's near complete 4th term

An old joke

Submitted by fyl on 16 January, 2008 - 11:34.

This is a joke from early in the Clinton I administration. Seems appropriate here.

Bill and Hillary are out for a Sunday drive in the Arkansas countryside. Their car starts running poorly as they approach a little town. Bill pulls into the little gas station/garage. The greasy owner comes out and greats him.

Bill: Our car is running poorly. Could you take a look at it?

Garage Guy: Yes sir, Mr. President. Why don't you and your wife go across the street to the cafe for a cup of coffee and I will see what I can do.

Bill: Ok, thank you.

About half an hour later Bill and Hillary return and find that their car has been fixed.

Bill (to the Garage Guy): Thanks for fixing the car.

Hillary (to the Garage Guy): Thanks John.

As Bill and Hillary drive off, Bill is a bit confused.

Bill: You called the mechanic John. Do you know him?

Hillary: Yes, I do. I dated him for a while before we got together.

Bill: You mean you could have ended up as the wife of a mechanic?

Hillary: No, Bill. He could have ended up as president.

hillary

Submitted by Che Guevara on 16 January, 2008 - 13:46.

has a problem. she is a hypocrite! if she and edwards really believed in affirmative action, they would get out of the race for the qualified candidate who has been taking the high road and whose race has been under-represented in the white house.

Votes ? she don't need no stinking votes...

Submitted by Doug on 13 January, 2008 - 10:19.

she has Diebold;

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

Clinton Optical scan 91,717 52.95% Obama Optical scan 81,495 47.05%

Clinton Hand-counted 20,889 47.05% Obama Hand-counted 23,509 52.95%

-Doug

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate

i thought

Submitted by Che Guevara on 16 January, 2008 - 15:24.

bush had diebold ;)

and you are correct....

Submitted by Doug on 16 January, 2008 - 19:22.

but they have to mix it up every once in a while, or the suckers will wise up ;)

Not that it will matter, she likes the Patriot Act and the war, I don't see a lot changing, Democrat/Republican same song;

" Then I'll get on my knees and pray we don't get fooled again " -We Don't Get Fooled Again, The Who

-Doug

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate

Another reason I like Nicaragua

Submitted by fyl on 16 January, 2008 - 20:18.

In the US, you have two corrupt political parties that basically stand for the same thing. In Nicaragua you actually have a lot more choices and, maybe, one or two that aren't corrupt.

Anyone who sees a serious difference between the Republicrats and the Democans needs to look no further than what was happening in Nicaragua in the 1980s. You had a Bush in the whitehouse in charge of doing bad things to Nicaragua where a lot of that bad stuff depended on the Arkansas National Guard sending "expended in exercises" materials to Nicaragua and getting cocaine in return. I think we know who was governor of Arkansas at that time.

Some activist, maybe 100 years ago said, "Don't vote—it only encourages them." I certainly understand her point. Based on the percentage of people of voting age in the US that actually vote, I think I am not alone.

Me too, there is no

Submitted by Leon on 16 January, 2008 - 22:43.

Me too, there is no (Alemán) corruption (pacto) in Nicaragua (Ortega) what-so-ever.

2008 Vote

Submitted by Off2thetropics on 12 January, 2008 - 18:30.

I cast my first ballot in 1972, and everyone I voted for was a Democrat. I have never missed a vote in any election cycle since that first vote and I have never once voted outside of the Democrat column. However if Hillary is the nominee this year I will cast a write-in for Alfred E. Newman. I simply cannot vote for her for several reasons. First and foremost is that Hillary is about Hillary. She's not about you or me. Second is that she has never once apologized for having voted to give Bush authorization to invade and occupy a country that never did a thing to the United States. Third, since that vote in favor of invasion, she has consistently voted to provide more funds for the war in Iraqnam. Right now that horrific waste of human lives (American and Iraqi) and money is costing us $15 billion a month. Yet Hillary shows no remorse. I think Michael Moore summed it up best when he said, regarding Iraqnam, that Hillary has "voted with her calculator not her conscience."

Speaking of the vote

Submitted by coulterica on 13 January, 2008 - 18:06.

We are moving to Managua in about 10 days....Will there be anywhere to cast an absentee ballot for the election when the time comes?

Absentee Ballots

Submitted by dixietraveller on 14 January, 2008 - 04:30.

Rules vary by state. Check where you registered to vote. Also see the following information from the US embassy in Managua: http://nicaragua.usembassy.gov/october_12_2007.html

O quantum est in rebus inane! / A palabras necias, oídos sordos.

I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. - Charles M. Schulz

The thing I keep getting

Submitted by rholmes on 13 January, 2008 - 08:12.

The thing I keep getting stuck on is, wouldn't Hillary be good for US-Nicaraguan relations? I think she and Rosario should get along very well, and it could only spell good things for Nicaragua.

"if you see someone who has lost their smile, give them one of yours"

Quite honestly, after the

Submitted by Off2thetropics on 13 January, 2008 - 08:53.

Quite honestly, after the boy wonder we've had to endure for the last 7 very long years, anyone, even the Architect of the Capitol, would be an improvement for US-Nicaragua relations. Right now almost every country on earth can't stand him - even Barbados is upset with the US because of Bush.

Think positive--it could change soon

Submitted by fyl on 15 January, 2008 - 10:32.
"Jan. 15 & 16, 2008, National Impeachment Lobbying Days"

From VoteToImpeach.org

Impeachment organizations and their members across the United States are uniting today and tomorrow to demand Congress impeach Bush and Cheney for High Crimes and Misdemeanors. ImpeachBush.org members are urged to take action today and to circulate this action alert to friends and family members. The Winter Lobbying Campaign is in full swing thanks to your support and involvement.

The politicians are feeling the heat of the impeachment movement that has spread all over the country. Let’s keep up the pressure!

This is far more than just some wackos. Here is a bit more on Congress' part.
Congressman Robert Wexler is organizing his colleagues to ask House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers to begin Cheney impeachment hearings. Wexler is asking his fellow Judiciary Committee Members to co-sign a letter to Conyers.
and
Congressman Dennis Kucinich was the first member of Congress to take a step for impeachment in April 2007. H. Res. 333, Articles of Impeachment Against Dick Cheney (reintroduced on Nov. 6, 2007, as H Res 799), is sponsored by the following Members of Congress: Jan Schakowsky, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Keith Ellison, Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee, Albert Wynn, William Lacy Clay, Dennis Kucinich, Yvette Clarke, Jim McDermott, Jim Moran, Bob Filner, Sam Farr, Robert Brady, Tammy Baldwin, Donald Payne, Steve Cohen, Sheila Jackson Lee, Carolyn Kilpatrick, Ed Towns, Diane Watson, Danny Davis, Raul Grijalva, Gwen Moore.

Robert Wexler, Tammy Baldwin, and Luis Gutierrez are urging the initiation of hearings and are joined in this by Anthony Weiner. Mike Michaud has written to Chairman Conyers calling for Cheney impeachment hearings. Tim Mahoney is said to be open to the idea of impeachment hearings.

Maybe the US could have democracy after all.

How timely - Election Year!

Submitted by dixietraveller on 15 January, 2008 - 17:54.

"This is far more than just some wackos." LOL Other than just the usual ones of both parties we elect to Congress? Nothing like waiting until the eighth year of the presidency. Hate to be so cynical, but it couldn't have to do with a presidential election year could it? I suspect it will be no more successful in the Senate (if it goes that far) than Clinton's impeachment, but we will see. It may, however, be a good vote-getter for the Dems depending on what, if any, new revelations might come out. If the public perceives it as turning out to be simply a "fishing expedition," it may hurt the Dems.

O quantum est in rebus inane! / A palabras necias, oídos sordos.

I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. - Charles M. Schulz

impeachment

Submitted by Che Guevara on 16 January, 2008 - 11:19.

is used by the bush hating crowd as a fund raising tool. i may not like bush's big spending, un love affair, but i don't hate. hate is a wasted emotion and definitely lacks compassion.

the vote

Submitted by 1st Capt. Ron on 13 January, 2008 - 08:37.

It sounds to me like you guys would vote for Chavez and Ortega as well

1st Capt. Ron

I'm so glad

Submitted by nicareal on 13 January, 2008 - 15:39.

that I don't have to worry about the election. I sure would not know who to vote for.

Obama IMO would deliver a whole lot less than he seems to promise.

Hillary, well she's Hillary

War heros don't impress me. (Seen too many cases where they became heros due to wrong official reports)

Who is left?

Daniel O. At least we know where we stand!

Ok

Submitted by cyanstorm on 13 January, 2008 - 16:28.

Mccain spent 5 years on a Vietnam prison, was under constant psychological and physical torture, he could have taken the easy way out; as he was the son of a Navy admiral he was offered amnesty NO STRINGS attached. He refused and stayed with his fellow P.O.W's, sharing in their agony. That my friend is the definition of a TRUE war hero, someone with that character and moral fortitude would make a great president, and someone who has ACTUALLY been to war, and had to fight and kill and God knows what else would be much less inclined to start a war.

I agree with Cyanstorm

Submitted by BlackEagle on 16 January, 2008 - 03:29.

as a Vietnam veteran, I decided when I returned that I had had enough of the US govt to last me what lifetime I had left. I left the US shortly after my return to live in Canada. That did not mean I was unpatriotic or that I did not love my countrymen-I did and I still do.I have never given up my citizenship nor I intend to. I have always admired Senator McCain for what he endured and for being a straight shooter in a world of corrupt men. He has seen hell and survived it and as Cyanstorm remarks he more than most knows what it means to send our young men off to die in foreign wars fighting for useless causes.