Nicaraguans Outside Nicaragua, Where?

Lola, that's the only reason I can come up with--denial. Or they chose to think that the Agricultural program still exists and that all the people in the Strawberry fields are doing so legally. Or maybe they don't care until they do something "bad." Quien sabe?!

However, to some people if you say you can tell the guy behind the counter at Burger King is from Honduras, they will say you are stereotyping...or a racist.

A lot of "undocumented immigrants" certainly DO receive benefits. By law they should not, but they do.

And as far as the ones in prison, I would bet the majority never contributed one penny in taxes. I am not talking about Joe Blow Carpenter who gets thrown in prison for a DUI accident. I am talking about the Meth distributors, 17 year old bangers who shoot people, or maybe the sex offenders we can't send back to their countries because they won't accept them so they just keep re-offending.

What a lot of people don't realize is that for the most part north of the Southern Border, Immigration concentrates on criminal aliens--the ones already in jails and prisons. Unless they call negitive attention to themselves, the others working in agriculture, construction, and other perhaps well paying jobs are left alone. The bad apples end up costing us a ton.

Like I said before, I know plenty of good people living here illegally, but unfortunately I see some that would make your skin crawl knowing what they have been up to.

Im sorry, there are a lot of people from Central And South America, who go to the states and send every nickle they make back home. Some do it because they need to support their families, but there are also those who go back home after breaking their backs for many years, and retire. And you know what... I never said there was anything wrong with that. They worked for it, so again ... why is everyone automaticly looking for the boogy "White Man" in my prior posting, get over it.

Come in from the cold war, the United States doesnt owe the Nicaraguan Goverment 16 Billion for the mining of Nicaragua's harbors, no matter how much everyone wants this to be true. During the administration of the Chamorro goverment, the United States forgave Nicaragua's debt, in turn the Chamorro administration said it was droping claim to the disputed order of the World Court.

I do not think you understand how or why money is collected, and how it is then expended, and why it is expended, and the principles behind the whole "process". If someone were to make an argument that illegal people in the U.S. cost U.S. tax-payers a ton of money (and it is a fact that they do), it is pointless for someone to start talking about lazy legal people in the U.S. It is a 100% completely different matter (it is quite possible for people to believe they should not have to pay for either thing, but definitely not the former). Even if it is true, it is irrelevant to the topic at hand. It is also irrelevant to a discussion of legal and illegal people in a country, that legal immigrants do pay taxes. Hopefully, they do. But, that money is hardly simply some weird trade-off to cover the costs of the illegal people there. It is a matter of citizenship -- that is why they pay taxes, and expending them is and should be tied to this citizenship principle, too. And, telling someone that if their tax money was not used on programs for immigrants or aliens, that it might instead be used for military purposes (the throwing of bombs), is also pointless. Again, this might in fact be true, but it has nothing to do with discussion. They are independent matters; there is no cause-and-effect nor dependence between the domestic social program and the international military venture. It is simply, completely illogical to collapse them into a single matter. Your whole post is confused. Yes, tax money collected will almost surely be expended on something, but it does not follow from that, that every possible thing they could spend it on is equally good, or that the money should or could be used for programs benefiting illegal people in the U.S. The idea that since funding a war is worse than funding a program for illegal people in the U.S., that it is therefore a good thing to fund a program for people who are in the U.S. illegally, is just silly. There are 1000`s of things which could be done with the money, not just a handful of things. If you think people in the U.S. should fund programs for illegal workers there, then you need to actually make a logical argument which demonstrates why a legal U.S. worker should pay taxes to help an illegal worker who is inside the U.S. Pretty tough challenge that will be. There is no shortage of U.S. government help for people who emigrate there legally, and there are good reasons for those programs. The arguments which support those programs, do not also work for people who go there illegally. The key part of any phrase describing people there without legitimate papers is ILLEGAL; the immigrant or worker or alien parts is a distant second.

Lola, stop "perceiving" and trying to find a interlineal conspiracy (Again). The big sign, it was intended as a metaphorical example of the United States Government’s inept enforcement of its own laws, to such a point that there might as well be a Billboard. Then again, after reading your antarchistical theory, you specifically mention immigration and land ownership, this might be a conversation we should agree, to disagree. What do you see as solutions to this problem, from both a immigrants perspective as well as the citizens of a country in which that individual wishes to move. You know one thing I found very interesting is that Mexico and Costa Rica make it very difficult for people to get a visa, especially for people from the C-8. Is this just the US?

Finally if you’re looking for my apology for being politically incorrect or saying things that might be offensive to you or people of immigrant background, then your in for a long wait. My great grandparents names are both etched in a memorial located on Ellis Island. I know all about immigrant families, I grew up in one. The other side of the family has been here apparently from the beginning, yes both side of the coin. Please don’t patronize us in your assumption that we might not understand what people are up against when they want to come to this country. The Attorney General is from an immigrant family. Oh, now you’re going to say he is Bush's token Mexican.

My mother in-law comes from Iran, and is now a Citizen. When she arrived legally in this country, she spent 15 years working three jobs and going to school at night so she could learn English. She took classes to get her GED, she is now attending college classes. She applied for and took classes in order to get her citizenship and on the day she received her citizenship was beaming. We were so proud of her; it was a defining moment in all of our lives. She was alone, a woman with little to no education, didn’t speak English and didn’t have a dime to her name; she had a dream, worked hard and played by the rules and has realized many of the dreams she had.

Lola, are you here legally? If you are, after reading your dissertation I would then wonder, why did you bother? If you are, you should be proud of the fact that you did things the right way, if not, then I can see why your panties might be in such a knot.